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[denizaksulu]

CT's maybe.

deniz do you or have you ever lived in the TRNC?

Yes, I have lived in Cyprus. I was also there two months ago and met my brothers too. I also felt the pulse of TCs. Not all agree with what I believe in but I was surprised at the number of people who do. You too have seen these people the via media.

What is this? A 100 questions.

I have lived here for the last 20 years could there be a possibility that I have more of a understanding of the average TCs viewpoint than you?

Of course there are people that agree with you but they are not Mr Average.

Your view points are extreme. TC's I know disgree with most of your ideas. Some ofcourse do. Even I agree with some of your points.

Really which points do you find extreme?

TAKSIM

Do you know why I support taksim?

It was said you hate the sound of Greek spoken or words to that effect. Personally I often listen to 103.3 FM; because I am not racist and do not support any racist system. If the RoC will support a racist system, I would condemn them too. So far they have not.

deniz your thinking is to simplistic and you have to realize that there is a very wide chasm between the two sides which will never be bridged, what one side regards as a plus the other sides considers a minus so nothing will happen....the fact that I put to the test my belief and it is again and again rubber stamped by the GCs that we have no middle ground to agree anything is proof enough how right I am. How many years do you need bashing your head up against a brick wall to come to the same conclusion?

The chasm is caused by those that wish to divide our island. The chasm would be far less had not partitionist took hold of the 'people' by their throat; just like EOKA and ENOSISTS has once had great say over the GCs. If the PARTITIONISTS, and EOKA (almost gone) and ENOSISTS are taken out of the equation, would that chasm exist? Yes, I see things in a simplistic manner that's why I would not make a politician. But I'd rather achieve peace in Cyprus through 'meaningful' talks rather that 'conquest' and ethnic cleansing'. I have principle's and I stick to them.

Goodnight.

[Viewpoint]

Simplistic = Danger = Capitulation.....are you ready to take that risk, a leap of faith with no safety net? Why do you want to put me in that danger?

[denizaksulu]

Simplistic = Danger = Capitulation.....are you ready to take that risk, a leap of faith with no safety net? Why do you want to put me in that danger?

Your fear regarding the safety net is my 'fear' too up to a point. Our safety can be ensured by those who will re-write the constitution and EU/UN/NATO. They should ensure that nothing untoward happens. Then get rid of the unwanted settlers.

Anyway,
You live your dream and I, mine.

Goodnight2

[repulsewarrior]

...vp, whereas deniz is a Human Being first, you choose to be a Turk. Cyprus in this sense is second to you.

...this is an Intolerance which escapes your reason and demeans the credibility you have, not just as an Individual, but as a Person.

...we have not defined the word Bicommunal, and as yet there is no real definition for it anywhere else.
unless our commitment to the rest of Mankind is realised (to demonstrate this Principal in a manner which can be emulated) there will be no Peace, only an impasse and the potential as great for far more harm by those who wish to resist the change that gives Cypriots their Freedom, and the rest of Mankind an example that broadens our (all of us) choices in the betterment of living.

you have resisted my challenge to analyse my manifesto. ironically you are a founder in its inspiration, as much as erolz, davlos, kifeas, and moose (to name a few). you more than anyone should agree, it is a 'virgin birth' because "Greek" and "Turkish" are in their place in Cyprus, a State where its Citizens are Equal and Sovereign for their own stewardship of a rich Heritance, made up of many Nations.

..you can ignore me, and dismiss deniz, but if you love this island as much as i (or we) do, it is wrong and corrupted thinking which leads to our exploitation and even less security in this region of the world.

[Kikapu]

CT's maybe.

deniz do you or have you ever lived in the TRNC?

Yes, I have lived in Cyprus. I was also there two months ago and met my brothers too. I also felt the pulse of TCs. Not all agree with what I believe in but I was surprised at the number of people who do. You too have seen these people the via media.

What is this? A 100 questions.

I have lived here for the last 20 years could there be a possibility that I have more of a understanding of the average TCs viewpoint than you?

Of course there are people that agree with you but they are not Mr Average.

Your view points are extreme. TC's I know disgree with most of your ideas. Some ofcourse do. Even I agree with some of your points.

Really which points do you find extreme?

TAKSIM

Do you know why I support taksim?

Thanks for the confirmation.

Hence the reason why you and the NeoPartitionist are not serious about a settlement based on the EU Principles, because it will deny them Taksim, just as my plan did. So it's not that I have a bad plan for Cypriots, but ONLY a bad plan for the NeoPartitionists.

No wonder the AP is so missed by the Neopartitionist that they held a 7th Anniversary vigil to it recently for it's demise in 2004.

[kurupetos]

Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC.

[denizaksulu]

Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC.

Never mind Annan....what happened to ELAM? when are you migrating?

[kurupetos]

Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC.

Never mind Annan....what happened to ELAM? when are you migrating?

ELAM? I'm no ELAM supporter my friend.

[denizaksulu]

Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC.

Never mind Annan....what happened to ELAM? when are you migrating?

ELAM? I'm no ELAM supporter my friend.

Did I accuse you of being Elam?
Arent you Yialoosers twin brother?

[kurupetos]

Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC.

Never mind Annan....what happened to ELAM? when are you migrating?

ELAM? I'm no ELAM supporter my friend.

Did I accuse you of being Elam?
Arent you Yialoosers twin brother?