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[Piratis]

The mess in Cyprus was created by the foreign invaders: The British and the Turks.

The Cypriot people asked for nothing more than what was their right. If the foreign imperialists could not respect the rights of the Cypriots, the blame obviously lies with the imperialists, and not with the Cypriots for daring asking for their rights.

That is like saying that we should blame the murder of Martin Luther King on Luther King himself, because he dared to ask for what was right for his people to which some criminals reacted by killing him. If Luther King just shut up and accepted his rights to be violated then he could have lived and died of old age.

Oppressed people revolt often seeking their freedom. Some times the revolt is successful, very often it is not. The oppressors punish the people, trying to "give them a lesson" that revolting and seeking their rights can only lead to their punishment, in an effort to prevent the oppressed from revolting again. This is the "lesson" that foreign imperialists like "supporttheunderdog" are trying to teach us. Some people with slave mentality "learn" this lesson (e.g. Bananiot). The rest of us, those with dignity and self-respect, will keep fighting until our island is liberated. The Imperialists can enslave our lands, but they can not enslave our minds and souls.

We know what is best for us, our children and our island, and we are striving for what is best for us. On the contrary what the foreign imperialists care about is how to serve their own interests on our expense. This is why imperialists such as "supporttheunderdog" not only say their "humble opinion", but they are held bend to impose their terms on Cyprus and show no kind of respect to what we want for our own island.

We are Greek and for us Athens is what London is for the people in Liverpool, nor foreign at all. Being part of Greece has absolutely nothing to do with being part of the British empire because (1) We are Greek, not British (2) Being part of a Greek state was our choice, not something imposed on us, (3) We would be equal Greek citizens, not colonial subjects.

Sure, having a small country can have positive aspects, look at countries such as Monaco, or Luxembourg, far better than a city like Liverpool. But it can also have negative aspects, the most obvious one that a small country is weak and not able to defend itself, a major negative aspect in a region such as ours.

The British and the Turks NEVER wanted a truly independent Cyprus. What they wanted was simply to isolate Cyprus from the rest of the Greek nation, to make it easier for themselves to continue to oppress and abuse our island.

I would rather have what they have in Crete or Rhodes, rather than the pseudo independence imposed on us by the imperialists which actually leaves our island under the control of the British and the Turks.

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The mess in Cyprus was created by the foreign invaders: The British and the Turks.

The Cypriot people asked for nothing more than what was their right. If the foreign imperialists could not respect the rights of the Cypriots, the blame obviously lies with the imperialists, and not with the Cypriots for daring asking for their rights.

That is like saying that we should blame the murder of Martin Luther King on Luther King himself, because he dared to ask for what was right for his people to which some criminals reacted by killing him. If Luther King just shut up and accepted his rights to be violated then he could have lived and died of old age.

Oppressed people revolt often seeking their freedom. Some times the revolt is successful, very often it is not. The oppressors punish the people, trying to "give them a lesson" that revolting and seeking their rights can only lead to their punishment, in an effort to prevent the oppressed from revolting again. This is the "lesson" that foreign imperialists like "supporttheunderdog" are trying to teach us. Some people with slave mentality "learn" this lesson (e.g. Bananiot). The rest of us, those with dignity and self-respect, will keep fighting until our island is liberated. The Imperialists can enslave our lands, but they can not enslave our minds and souls.

We know what is best for us, our children and our island, and we are striving for what is best for us. On the contrary what the foreign imperialists care about is how to serve their own interests on our expense. This is why imperialists such as "supporttheunderdog" not only say their "humble opinion", but they are held bend to impose their terms on Cyprus and show no kind of respect to what we want for our own island.

We are Greek and for us Athens is what London is for the people in Liverpool, nor foreign at all. Being part of Greece has absolutely nothing to do with being part of the British empire because (1) We are Greek, not British (2) Being part of a Greek state was our choice, not something imposed on us, (3) We would be equal Greek citizens, not colonial subjects.

Sure, having a small country can have positive aspects, look at countries such as Monaco, or Luxembourg, far better than a city like Liverpool. But it can also have negative aspects, the most obvious one that a small country is weak and not able to defend itself, a major negative aspect in a region such as ours.

The British and the Turks NEVER wanted a truly independent Cyprus. What they wanted was simply to isolate Cyprus from the rest of the Greek nation, to make it easier for themselves to continue to oppress and abuse our island.

I would rather have what they have in Crete or Rhodes, rather than the pseudo independence imposed on us by the imperialists which actually leaves our island under the control of the British and the Turks.

And gifting Cyprus to Greece ........would create a truly independent Cyprus
Cyprus had and still have some special features
So yes foreign forces used us for their benefits .....
on the other hand we've done everything necessary ...we made all the mistakes on earth to help them archived their goals but some of us will never learn what is best For us CYPRIOTS . We enter EU a huge benefit for us and we still dont know who to use it for our benefit and we are still dreaming for ''Motherland'' to save us ........but IMHO they are waiting us to save them ..........

[B25]

Bollocks- In disrepectful memory of terrorists and murders!

Sir, you are a fucking discrace, fuck you.

next time I am in london I will take a shit on remembrance sunday on your peoples epitaph. Because thats what you are doing here. And to thing you may even be in Cyprus amongst the very people to desecrate.

Only a piece of shit like you would have said those words.

Arsehole

[Paphitis]

1st April

In respectful memory to those 17 & 18 year old heroes that faced the gallows for the love of their country.

May they rest in peace!

No Cypriot will ever forget these brave patriots and fighters. Their memory will be eternal!

[Paphitis]

Bollocks- In disrepectful memory of terrorists and murders!

If you swim against the tide and disrespect our history in this fashion then you should do the honourable thing and leave!

This is akin to comming to Australia and disrespecting its national prestige, and history by disrespecting the fallen ANZACs!

Shame on you!

[Piratis]

Bollocks- In disrepectful memory of terrorists and murders!

Sir, you are a fucking discrace, fuck you.

next time I am in london I will take a shit on remembrance sunday on your peoples epitaph. Because thats what you are doing here. And to thing you may even be in Cyprus amongst the very people to desecrate.

Only a piece of shit like you would have said those words.

Arsehole

When they terrorize and murder people in order to serve their own interests it is fine. They killed over 1 million civilians including women and children in Germany and Italy alone. The Americans nuked 2 whole cities in Japan.

When it comes to them defending their own nations everything is allowed. But when we try to defend our own nation from foreign oppressors we are "terrorists and murderers"

And lets not forget that these Imperialist terrorists are most often the aggressors. Vietnam, Iraq, now Lybia, are just a few examples of the places they invaded, killing, raping and torturing people with the aim of stealing their resources.

[Piratis]

And gifting Cyprus to Greece ........would create a truly independent Cyprus

Cyprus is a Greek island. Being part of the Greek state is not "gifting" Cyprus to anyone. Thats like saying that Manchester is gifted to England.

Being part of the Greek state would create a truly free Cyprus, as it is the case with Crete, Rhodes and other liberated Greek islands.

Our mistake was that we started the struggle for freedom way too late. We should have started right after WWII.

[Get Real!]

Cyprus is a Greek island.

You're so fucked in the head there’s honestly no cure for uneducated brainwashed fools like you other than point blank execution!

[AlanwithoneL]

Cyprus is a Greek island.

You're so fucked in the head there’s honestly no cure for uneducated brainwashed fools like you other than point blank execution!

Very well said Get Real.

Piratis, you have nothing constructive to say on the Cyprus issue, your every post is an insult to all peace loving Cypriots.

[AlanwithoneL]

1st April

In respectful memory to those 17 & 18 year old heroes that faced the gallows for the love of their country.

May they rest in peace!

No Cypriot will ever forget these brave patriots and fighters. Their memory will be eternal!

This is where it gets complicated, you see, your heros are our villains and equally our heros are your villains. I wouldn't know where to begin in finding a happy middle-ground on this subject so perhaps some of the veteran debaters can make some sensible suggestions?

Note to Piratis, please dont come along and tell us this is a Greek island and 1571 and all that nonsense. For once put on your human mask and behave like one.