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Turkey defers purchase of F-35 jets

Postby Lit » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:09 am

F-35 order on hold over US’ refusal to share technology
Published: 3/27/2011

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=364994

Turkey announced on Tuesday that it is putting the planned purchase of 100 F-35 fighter jets from the US on hold because the Pentagon refuses to share the source code used in the software designed for the aircraft as well as the codes that might be used externally to activate the planes.

Following a meeting of the Defense Industry Implementation Committee (SSIK), Defense Minister Vecdi Gonul said that the negotiations over the F-35 procurement tender had not yielded "satisfactory results." He added, "We will evaluate the order in the next meeting, in light of the progress made in the talks by then."

He said much ground had been covered in the talks in terms of technology sharing, but this was not enough for Turkey to accept the jets. He said the costs of the project had also risen but that the Turkish side had failed to secure the source code and the remote flight codes for the planes for which it will be paying $16 billion.

Without the source code, Turkish engineers wouldn’t be able to make any changes to the software that operates the jets. The external flight codes are equally important, if not more, as they can be used externally to navigate the jets.
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:00 am

I think any reasonable purchaser/operator would want the external flight codes.
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Re: Turkey defers purchase of F-35 jets

Postby bill cobbett » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:32 pm

Lit wrote:F-35 order on hold over US’ refusal to share technology
Published: 3/27/2011

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=364994

Turkey announced on Tuesday that it is putting the planned purchase of 100 F-35 fighter jets from the US on hold because the Pentagon refuses to share the source code used in the software designed for the aircraft as well as the codes that might be used externally to activate the planes.

Following a meeting of the Defense Industry Implementation Committee (SSIK), Defense Minister Vecdi Gonul said that the negotiations over the F-35 procurement tender had not yielded "satisfactory results." He added, "We will evaluate the order in the next meeting, in light of the progress made in the talks by then."

He said much ground had been covered in the talks in terms of technology sharing, but this was not enough for Turkey to accept the jets. He said the costs of the project had also risen but that the Turkish side had failed to secure the source code and the remote flight codes for the planes for which it will be paying $16 billion.

Without the source code, Turkish engineers wouldn’t be able to make any changes to the software that operates the jets. The external flight codes are equally important, if not more, as they can be used externally to navigate the jets.


Do believe that these "source codes" have not been supplied to Turkey on previous occasions for older jets.

Goes to show the limit of USA trust of Turkey.
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Postby B25 » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:22 pm

Turkey, had better get used to it, cos the way they are going, they won't be getting anything from the israelis either :)
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Postby ZoC » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:49 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:I think any reasonable purchaser/operator would want the external flight codes.



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wot would a crooked, carpetbagging purchaser of stolen property no about reasonable?
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:00 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:I think any reasonable purchaser/operator would want the external flight codes.

As in…

“Any "reasonable" home buyer would want title deeds”

The punchline: …in an illegally occupied territory! :roll:
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Postby Raymanoff » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:34 pm

i bet you can download a crack from piratebay, i beg Turkey to spend 16billion on another useless piece of shit which Russian missle will shoot down in the first day of combat use.
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:41 pm

Oh yes? Like the ones Gaddafi is using to shoot down NATO planes. Perhaps the Arabs do not shoot straight ...
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:55 pm

Bananiot wrote:Oh yes? Like the ones Gaddafi is using to shoot down NATO planes. Perhaps the Arabs do not shoot straight ...

It's all garbage from the 70s! :lol:

Libyan Surface-to-Air Missiles:

Lavochkin SA-2 Guideline – 300;
Isayev SA-3 Goa – 250;
Almaz SA-5 Gammon – 380;
S-200 missile systems – 70;
9K38 Igla – 380;
9K34 Strela-3 – 278;
ZSU-23-4Shilka – 200;
ZSU-57-2 – 75;
2K12 Kub - 50;[1]


For someone who got raided again by the US in 1986, he should've known better and invested some of that oil money in a modern air defense system but his only interests are in tents and dresses! :?

By comparison, the CNG's air defense systems make her a superpower! :lol:

And yes, Russian air defense systems are very good provided they are up to date.
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Postby Raymanoff » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:58 pm

SA2 and SA3? made in 1955... in exchange for 10 camels :D :D :D
Yet, those were disabled by Tomahawks and not actual planes. Planes targeted Tanks and Radars
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