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[Paphitis]

if the usa had over 20,000 sorties and 2 jets downed thats an unbelievable advantage in war and air superiority....can cyprus have such an advantage over turkey?

That is not Air Superiority! It is called Air Supremacy!

There is a difference! The TAF would undoubtedly achieve Air Supremacy over Cyprus if another power did not get involved, but this does not mean that they can defeat the CNG!

[wyoming cowboy]

if the usa had over 20,000 sorties and 2 jets downed thats an unbelievable advantage in war and air superiority....can cyprus have such an advantage over turkey?

If Iraq was able to down that many allied jets using Silkworm missiles, then there’s not a doubt in my mind that the CNG would decimate the TAF or much of it anyway!

Here’s what you’re comparing…

Scenario 1. The best surveillance, support, and greatest number of coordinated jets VERSUS Iraq’s predominantly Silkworm missiles and AAA!

With

Scenario 2. 3rd rate surveillance, support, and smaller number of (American-export) jets piloted by Turks VERSUS the CNG’s wide range and state of the art S2A defenses.

Given the defensive choice I’d much rather be in the second group!

Don't forget to zip up your pants, when you're finished jerkin' off.

Why, are you planning to cross dress for us?

For your info, in 1974 the ragtag Cypriot defense shot down 15 Turkish jets (mostly Super Sabres) with AAA!!!!

According to who?

In any case, time has moved on and although you guys are still rag-tag, the TAF has learnt a lot in NATO.

What cyprus needs is tactical capabilities (artillery, surface to surface missiles) anti ship missiles, there cant be more then 100-150 military bases in the occupied areas, decimate these areas, destroy or bypass the turk maginot line on pentadaktylos in the first hours and coupled with a CNG thats fully mobile and the whole of the army being in Kyrenia within 10 hours, the game is over...

[repulsewarrior]

Lit, do you think 16 Billion will buy 100 of these planes?

...sounds cheep to me.

do you know the answer GR?

[Get Real!]

Lit, do you think 16 Billion will buy 100 of these planes?

...sounds cheep to me.

do you know the answer GR?

According to this article…

http://www.cnbc.com/id/36692113/How_Muc ... eally_Cost

…you can buy a modern F-16 or F-18 fighter for around $60 million each, so yes you can have about 200 of these for $12 billion!

Of course, the cost doesn’t end there… missiles, training, maintenance, facilities, and so forth will probably gobble down more money than the jets themselves!

[Paphitis]

Lit, do you think 16 Billion will buy 100 of these planes?

...sounds cheep to me.

do you know the answer GR?

According to this article…

http://www.cnbc.com/id/36692113/How_Muc ... eally_Cost

…you can buy a modern F-16 or F-18 fighter for around $60 million each, so yes you can have about 200 of these for $12 billion!

Of course, the cost doesn’t end there… missiles, training, maintenance, facilities, and so forth will probably gobble down more money than the jets themselves!

Turkey is a consortium partner, and as such has to contribute to a portion of
all the research and development of airframe, weapons and avionics systems costs. There are many nations that are part of this consortium, Australia being another.

Cost for an F35 is about 100 million USD for third parties. Australia and Israel were offered 60 million USD per unit. That is a real mark down for strategic reasons.

F22 cost about 200 million USD each. Again, F22s have been offered to Australia for 140 million USD. No other country will have access to F22 other than Australia and that is because many of the technologies onboard are Australian and also because of certain Chinese containment fears.

[vaughanwilliams]

if the usa had over 20,000 sorties and 2 jets downed thats an unbelievable advantage in war and air superiority....can cyprus have such an advantage over turkey?

If Iraq was able to down that many allied jets using Silkworm missiles, then there’s not a doubt in my mind that the CNG would decimate the TAF or much of it anyway!

Here’s what you’re comparing…

Scenario 1. The best surveillance, support, and greatest number of coordinated jets VERSUS Iraq’s predominantly Silkworm missiles and AAA!

With

Scenario 2. 3rd rate surveillance, support, and smaller number of (American-export) jets piloted by Turks VERSUS the CNG’s wide range and state of the art S2A defenses.

Given the defensive choice I’d much rather be in the second group!

Don't forget to zip up your pants, when you're finished jerkin' off.

Why, are you planning to cross dress for us?

For your info, in 1974 the ragtag Cypriot defense shot down 15 Turkish jets (mostly Super Sabres) with AAA!!!!

According to who?

In any case, time has moved on and although you guys are still rag-tag, the TAF has learnt a lot in NATO.

What cyprus needs is tactical capabilities (artillery, surface to surface missiles) anti ship missiles, there cant be more then 100-150 military bases in the occupied areas, decimate these areas, destroy or bypass the turk maginot line on pentadaktylos in the first hours and coupled with a CNG thats fully mobile and the whole of the army being in Kyrenia within 10 hours, the game is over...

You're dreaming!
What's the Turkish Army/Airforce doing while all this is going on?

[ZoC]

What's the Turkish Army/Airforce doing while all this is going on?

they've been hired by akfinans banksters to evict all the old red kneck carpet munchers who were gullible enough to part with their grandchildren's inheritance for the opportunity to trespass temporarily on other people's land.

[wyoming cowboy]

if the usa had over 20,000 sorties and 2 jets downed thats an unbelievable advantage in war and air superiority....can cyprus have such an advantage over turkey?

If Iraq was able to down that many allied jets using Silkworm missiles, then there’s not a doubt in my mind that the CNG would decimate the TAF or much of it anyway!

Here’s what you’re comparing…

Scenario 1. The best surveillance, support, and greatest number of coordinated jets VERSUS Iraq’s predominantly Silkworm missiles and AAA!

With

Scenario 2. 3rd rate surveillance, support, and smaller number of (American-export) jets piloted by Turks VERSUS the CNG’s wide range and state of the art S2A defenses.

Given the defensive choice I’d much rather be in the second group!

Don't forget to zip up your pants, when you're finished jerkin' off.

Why, are you planning to cross dress for us?

For your info, in 1974 the ragtag Cypriot defense shot down 15 Turkish jets (mostly Super Sabres) with AAA!!!!

According to who?

In any case, time has moved on and although you guys are still rag-tag, the TAF has learnt a lot in NATO.

What cyprus needs is tactical capabilities (artillery, surface to surface missiles) anti ship missiles, there cant be more then 100-150 military bases in the occupied areas, decimate these areas, destroy or bypass the turk maginot line on pentadaktylos in the first hours and coupled with a CNG thats fully mobile and the whole of the army being in Kyrenia within 10 hours, the game is over...

You're dreaming!
What's the Turkish Army/Airforce doing while all this is going on?

once the artillery begins to rain in, there wont be much to do

[Raymanoff]

Lets bomb/mortar/artillerty the Turkish bases then... its always a war per generation so be it. Let the Turkey attack an EU state which legally protects its sovereignty.

[repulsewarrior]

...turning "them" to glass always seems like a good idea at first.