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[bill cobbett]

As all will know... The Scabby, Self-Serving "motherlands" and the Colonial Power GB formed the UnHoly Trinity to guarantee to screw-up the Republic in ways and at times of their choosing.

To repeat it again, the significant sentence in the "treaty" of guarantee was that these partners would act together, if needed, to restore the situation to that as per the 1960 Unitary State Constitution.

So what have been the actions of the GB Foreign and Colonial Office to restore the 1960 situation...???!!!!

Well their preference since the mid-50's has been for bi-communalism, a one step away from partition divisionist "solution", and especially since 1974, the GB Colonial Office has taken the lead at the UN Security Council and elsewhere to agitate for its preferred BBF "settlement". So what it couldn't achieve in the late '50s in the establishment negotiations, it has tried in the last 40 years to get in other ways.

Pushing for this BBF pollocks at every opportunity, inside and outside the UN, has been the work of the GB Foreign Office.

So it should be very, very clear to all of us that the GB Foreign Office, and its mouth-pieces that are successive GB PMs and Foreign Secretaries and the Governor General (in the guise of a "high commissioner"), are not to be trusted on the matter of CY, that they do not honour their guarantee on CY, which was to guarantee the terms of the 1960 Constitution.

[B25]

Billy boy, whats new? Haven't you learnt anything where the UK is concerned??

Their problem is that we are no longer alone now, being part of the EU makes life harder for them

[AWE]

Billy boy, whats new? Haven't you learnt anything where the UK is concerned??

Their problem is that we are no longer alone now, being part of the EU makes life harder for them

but doesn't the EU subscribe to a BBF as set out in the relevant UN documents etc?

Anyway, France, Austria, and Germany don't want a Cyprus solution as they won't be able to use the Cyprob to keep Turkey out of the EU should it meet the Copenhagen Criteria.

[repulsewarrior]

bicommunal like enclaves are words with definitions, it takes sleazy politicians to twist out of them the negative factors that make them as words, dirty.

the choices include if we have the courage something new, something the world needs, but it means that being a Cypriot does not mean you are "Greek" and/or "Turk", it means that this identity must have its place as the internal politics of Cypriots.

[antifon]

Billy boy, whats new? Haven't you learnt anything where the UK is concerned??

Their problem is that we are no longer alone now, being part of the EU makes life harder for them

but doesn't the EU subscribe to a BBF as set out in the relevant UN documents etc?

The EU subscribes to the democratic will of its member state

Anyway, France, Austria, and Germany don't want a Cyprus solution as they won't be able to use the Cyprob to keep Turkey out of the EU should it meet the Copenhagen Criteria.

EU member states don't need Cyprus to keep Turkey out of the EU. They have Turkey and its myriad other problems for that.

[B25]

Billy boy, whats new? Haven't you learnt anything where the UK is concerned??

Their problem is that we are no longer alone now, being part of the EU makes life harder for them

but doesn't the EU subscribe to a BBF as set out in the relevant UN documents etc?

Anyway, France, Austria, and Germany don't want a Cyprus solution as they won't be able to use the Cyprob to keep Turkey out of the EU should it meet the Copenhagen Criteria.

a BBF is purebollocks, it's just another process to keep the turks happy.

Actually, we want what all other countries the world over have, our freedom, our democratic and human rights respected and not be held at gunpoint by hoodlum turks and carptshaggers.

Go tell your masters.

[humanist]

Bill Cobett ..... there are many people who can see this issue you have raised.

However, I am not sure how well the GB has thought of this. I wonder how a case would go Cyprus vs GB because as a guarantor it has failed to bring back normality in fact has created disharmony, racism and discrimination and breach of human rights. However, the complication now comes because Cyprus is an EU State and Britain continues to unfill in her role to normalise the situation after the Turkish so called intervention.

[AWE]

Billy boy, whats new? Haven't you learnt anything where the UK is concerned??

Their problem is that we are no longer alone now, being part of the EU makes life harder for them

but doesn't the EU subscribe to a BBF as set out in the relevant UN documents etc?

Anyway, France, Austria, and Germany don't want a Cyprus solution as they won't be able to use the Cyprob to keep Turkey out of the EU should it meet the Copenhagen Criteria.

a BBF is purebollocks, it's just another process to keep the turks happy.

Actually, we want what all other countries the world over have, our freedom, our democratic and human rights respected and not be held at gunpoint by hoodlum turks and carptshaggers.

Go tell your masters.

So you don't want a solution as based on the relevant UN documents, that is also the framework for the current set of talks?

Do tell your President as that is the basis he is negotiating on.

(PS the Turks are not my masters as I don't live in the TRNC or for that matter the RoC)

[denizaksulu]

Bill Cobett ..... there are many people who can see this issue you have raised.

However, I am not sure how well the GB has thought of this. I wonder how a case would go Cyprus vs GB because as a guarantor it has failed to bring back normality in fact has created disharmony, racism and discrimination and breach of human rights. However, the complication now comes because Cyprus is an EU State and Britain continues to unfill in her role to normalise the situation after the Turkish so called intervention.

Just after the coup against Makarios, I was happy when Ecevit had contacted the UK to stop what was supposed to be happening to Cyprus. I could not understand why England refused to stick to its obligations under the Guarantee Agreements. Ofcourse now we know better. England can never be trusted. They always wanted their bases on the island after they got kicked out off Suez. Cyprus had become their 'aircraft carrier' so to speak - keeping an eye on the Med and the middle -east. Nothing has changed. Cyprus is still used for its Imperialistic purposes - just look at Libya.
There is a far greater urgency now that Nuclear Power has taken a set-back after the Earthquake/Tsunami devastation in Japan. The Middle-east and Libyan(BP) oil will be in more demand. Have we seen as much urgency to interfere into a country as we have seen with LIBYA? I dont think so. Before we could count to 10, the united airforce of the west (read: petrol consumers) were bombing Libya with help from the SBA.

One beautiful sentence here:

Yurtta Sulh, Cihanda sulh/Peace at home , peace all over the world.

(damn oil. Damned with it and damned without it)

[bill cobbett]

Billy boy, whats new? Haven't you learnt anything where the UK is concerned??

Their problem is that we are no longer alone now, being part of the EU makes life harder for them

but doesn't the EU subscribe to a BBF as set out in the relevant UN documents etc?

Anyway, France, Austria, and Germany don't want a Cyprus solution as they won't be able to use the Cyprob to keep Turkey out of the EU should it meet the Copenhagen Criteria.

a BBF is purebollocks, it's just another process to keep the turks happy.

Actually, we want what all other countries the world over have, our freedom, our democratic and human rights respected and not be held at gunpoint by hoodlum turks and carptshaggers.

Go tell your masters.

So you don't want a solution as based on the relevant UN documents, that is also the framework for the current set of talks?

Do tell your President as that is the basis he is negotiating on.

(PS the Turks are not my masters as I don't live in the TRNC or for that matter the RoC)

Please go and tell Errorglue, who a few weeks ago went on and on about a CONfederation, and who still maintains the view that a settlement will be based on 2 Peoples, 2 States, Love of Turkey etc etc.

Have a good think mate you can accuse others and moi of wanting to go outside the BBF as our preferred settlement but no way does that apply to Pres X. ... and let's not be in any doubt that a BBF is the work of the GB Foreign Office.