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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:34 pm

Its BBF with political equality or nothing, this has been in grained into the UN blueprint.
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Postby bill cobbett » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:41 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Its BBF with political equality or nothing, this has been in grained into the UN blueprint.


So has a Single Personality, a Single Peoples, The Withdrawal of the TA, The Shipping Out of the Settlers, EU Principles etc etc so go and bleeding well tell Errorglue and Erdotnuc.

Don't pick and choose from the "blueprint" to suit.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:49 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Its BBF with political equality or nothing, this has been in grained into the UN blueprint.


So has a Single Personality, a Single Peoples, The Withdrawal of the TA, The Shipping Out of the Settlers, EU Principles etc etc so go and bleeding well tell Errorglue and Erdotnuc.

Don't pick and choose from the "blueprint" to suit.


Eroglu will have to conform as the blueprint is one and can only be negotiated but BBF is all thats available.
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Postby bill cobbett » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:17 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Its BBF with political equality or nothing, this has been in grained into the UN blueprint.


So has a Single Personality, a Single Peoples, The Withdrawal of the TA, The Shipping Out of the Settlers, EU Principles etc etc so go and bleeding well tell Errorglue and Erdotnuc.

Don't pick and choose from the "blueprint" to suit.


Eroglu will have to conform as the blueprint is one and can only be negotiated but BBF is all thats available.


In which case mate you may wish think about make your views clear to Errorgluey ... and join the Protests... next one on April 6.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:28 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Its BBF with political equality or nothing, this has been in grained into the UN blueprint.


So has a Single Personality, a Single Peoples, The Withdrawal of the TA, The Shipping Out of the Settlers, EU Principles etc etc so go and bleeding well tell Errorglue and Erdotnuc.

Don't pick and choose from the "blueprint" to suit.


Eroglu will have to conform as the blueprint is one and can only be negotiated but BBF is all thats available.


In which case mate you may wish think about make your views clear to Errorgluey ... and join the Protests... next one on April 6.


Internal politics and external politics are totally different things.
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Postby ZoC » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:29 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Its BBF with political equality or nothing, this has been in grained into the UN blueprint.


no he's right, billy. here its is for ur own personal delectation...

the famous blueprint - as championed by vp, the yellow-bellied, sitting duck:

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Postby humanist » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:30 pm

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Just after the coup against Makarios, I was happy when Ecevit had contacted the UK to stop what was supposed to be happening to Cyprus. I could not understand why England refused to stick to its obligations under the Guarantee Agreements. Ofcourse now we know better. England can never be trusted. They always wanted their bases on the island after they got kicked out off Suez. Cyprus had become their 'aircraft carrier' so to speak - keeping an eye on the Med and the middle -east. Nothing has changed. Cyprus is still used for its Imperialistic purposes - just look at Libya.
There is a far greater urgency now that Nuclear Power has taken a set-back after the Earthquake/Tsunami devastation in Japan. The Middle-east and Libyan(BP) oil will be in more demand. Have we seen as much urgency to interfere into a country as we have seen with LIBYA? I dont think so. Before we could count to 10, the united airforce of the west (read: petrol consumers) were bombing Libya with help from the SBA.

One beautiful sentence here:

Yurtta Sulh, Cihanda sulh/Peace at home , peace all over the world.

(damn oil. Damned with it and damned without it)


Deniz I was way to young to know what was going on back then in Cyprus however with a bit of reading and hearing anectodotes it is not difficult to agree with your comments.

However, we have the UK now a member of the EU and a guarantor power of another EU State asisiting Turkey and the TC community or at east the TC leadership in violating human rights of other EU citizens and that is what I would like to see in Courts ECHR in particular.

In many ways VP is right BBF is now the only option we have however political equality can also mean one person one vote with the TC community concentrated in the northern part of the Island, where is they have the numbers they can form government without restricting the rest of the population from being part of that parliament. The only way I can see that happening is that all political parties ie AKEL and its TC equivalent become one party so you are indeed in a democratic BBF situation has equality in becoming a member of parliament. However, Eroglu and his fascist supporters will not allow this.

By doing so we have learnt that Turkey does not give a hoot about the TC community in Cyprus and for as long as the VP's and Eroglu's of the world believe that Turkey is interested in their welfare they will have to live with the status quo because I cannot see any EU citizen letting go of their rights.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:42 pm

So what are we supposed to do humanist? do we remember 1963-1974 or the 450 million usd Turkeys pumps into the TRNC every year? Which in your honest opinion is more beneficial to the TCs please be honest. Turkey has a strategic interest where ever she is, we are just like any other part of Turkey just as important and thats why Turkey will always support us. Can you imagine the flack she gets because of us? she puts up with this for many reasons one being strategic and of course the bonds we have built over the past years something which we never had with GCs.
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Postby humanist » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:46 pm

VP Turkey does not have your interests what so ever. She pays 450 million USD into trnc to maintain control. that is my honest answer.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:48 pm

humanist wrote:VP Turkey does not have your interests what so ever. She pays 450 million USD into trnc to maintain control. that is my honest answer.


Doesnt she pay for all of Turkey? what difference does it make?
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