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[Viewpoint]

no the g/c want a federal republic thay is a EU MEMBER that conforms to un and eu priciples and laws.they want a say in there property in the north and they want there untied country not to be under the influence and domination of a another country.

But you are not to be trusted so we have to have guarantee structures until we can trust each other.

[Hermes]

no the g/c want a federal republic thay is a EU MEMBER that conforms to un and eu priciples and laws.they want a say in there property in the north and they want there untied country not to be under the influence and domination of a another country.

But you are not to be trusted so we have to have guarantee structures until we can trust each other.

As long as they conform to the EU acquis and UN resolutions. You cannot expect more rights than any other EU community. You cannot undo the entry of Cyprus into the EU. Especially as any future federal state will be subject to EU law.

Until you come to terms with this reality you cannot expect to dictate a solution to the G/Cs. You cannot ask the G/Cs to give up their rights to accommodate you.

You have to give up your partitionist delusions to acquire the rights you have lost under the Turkish occupation. Until you see a potential solution as recovering your rights rather than losing them, you will remain as the losers you currently are.

[Viewpoint]

no the g/c want a federal republic thay is a EU MEMBER that conforms to un and eu priciples and laws.they want a say in there property in the north and they want there untied country not to be under the influence and domination of a another country.

But you are not to be trusted so we have to have guarantee structures until we can trust each other.

As long as they conform to the EU acquis and UN resolutions. You cannot expect more rights than any other EU community. You cannot undo the entry of Cyprus into the EU. Especially as any future federal state will be subject to EU law.

Until you come to terms with this reality you cannot expect to dictate a solution to the G/Cs. You cannot ask the G/Cs to give up their rights to accommodate you.

You have to give up your partitionist delusions to acquire the rights you have lost under the Turkish occupation. Until you see a potential solution as recovering your rights rather than losing them, you will remain as the losers you currently are.

Thanks but no thanks, we would rather be losers in the TRNC than so called winners forced to accept GC dominance in the "RoC".....why is this so hard for you to understand?

[antifon]

no the g/c want a federal republic thay is a EU MEMBER that conforms to un and eu priciples and laws.they want a say in there property in the north and they want there untied country not to be under the influence and domination of a another country.

But you are not to be trusted so we have to have guarantee structures until we can trust each other.

As long as they conform to the EU acquis and UN resolutions. You cannot expect more rights than any other EU community. You cannot undo the entry of Cyprus into the EU. Especially as any future federal state will be subject to EU law.

Until you come to terms with this reality you cannot expect to dictate a solution to the G/Cs. You cannot ask the G/Cs to give up their rights to accommodate you.

You have to give up your partitionist delusions to acquire the rights you have lost under the Turkish occupation. Until you see a potential solution as recovering your rights rather than losing them, you will remain as the losers you currently are.

Thanks but no thanks, we would rather be losers in the TRNC than so called winners forced to accept GC dominance in the "RoC".....why is this so hard for you to understand?

People like you Viewpoint will be losers in Turkey before long. That is what you fail to recognize. The tsunami is about to hit & the repercussions won't be pretty for the "trnc"-die-hards!


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[Hermes]

we would rather be losers in the TRNC than so called winners forced to accept GC dominance in the "RoC".....why is this so hard for you to understand?

I think you should stop thinking like a loser and start thinking like you have something to gain from a solution.

[boulio]

As long as they conform to the EU acquis and UN resolutions. You cannot expect more rights than any other EU community. You cannot undo the entry of Cyprus into the EU. Especially as any future federal state will be subject to EU law.

Until you come to terms with this reality you cannot expect to dictate a solution to the G/Cs. You cannot ask the G/Cs to give up their rights to accommodate you.

You have to give up your partitionist delusions to acquire the rights you have lost under the Turkish occupation. Until you see a potential solution as recovering your rights rather than losing them, you will remain as the losers you currently are.

+1000 hermes great post

[Viewpoint]

we would rather be losers in the TRNC than so called winners forced to accept GC dominance in the "RoC".....why is this so hard for you to understand?

I think you should stop thinking like a loser and start thinking like you have something to gain from a solution.

But not from the solution you are offering or we would take you up on it tomorrow. If you compromise to share with the TCs equally then we might get somewhere otherwise the status quo will continue forever.

[antifon]

we would rather be losers in the TRNC than so called winners forced to accept GC dominance in the "RoC".....why is this so hard for you to understand?

I think you should stop thinking like a loser and start thinking like you have something to gain from a solution.

But not from the solution you are offering or we would take you up on it tomorrow. If you compromise to share with the TCs equally then we might get somewhere otherwise the status quo will continue forever.

I am afraid the forever of the "trnc" is limited in duration.

[SKI-preo]

Viewpoint,

How are we living "the solution" there is a retired colonel from mainland Turkey holidaying in my house and still using our vintage fridge and he even had our TV. There was never a single Turkish Cypriot in our village so don't give me this 1963 crap that happened(allegedly) more than 100kms away. My grandparent's tombstones are all over the village cemetary and 45% of the of this all Christian village lives in exile in other countries because of ethnic cleansing. Is your response going to be 11 years earlier 5 Greek Cypriots allegedly killed 10 Turkish Cypriots 100 kms away and therefore MY village has to be wiped off the map. That is not what the 4th Geneva Convention on Human Rights says.

[Viewpoint]

Viewpoint,

How are we living "the solution" there is a retired colonel from mainland Turkey holidaying in my house and still using our vintage fridge and he even had our TV. There was never a single Turkish Cypriot in our village so don't give me this 1963 crap that happened(allegedly) more than 100kms away. My grandparent's tombstones are all over the village cemetary and 45% of the of this all Christian village lives in exile in other countries because of ethnic cleansing. Is your response going to be 11 years earlier 5 Greek Cypriots allegedly killed 10 Turkish Cypriots 100 kms away and therefore MY village has to be wiped off the map. That is not what the 4th Geneva Convention on Human Rights says.

Ask the eoka bastards who ignited the litmus paper to division....your loss was the final result of their actions, why do you not ask them to account for your loss?

What about those TCs that have lived in the north all their lives who now live in an unrecognized state due to your enosis dream. Everyone is paying a price some more than others.