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[antifon]

PS, Auntie, I came to Cyprus after 2004 as an EU citizen, availing myself of precisely the same right to come and settle here as a Cypriot has any where in the EU. I can speak fluent Turkish and could have chosen to buy a GC-owned property in the north at a knock-down price, and have lived quite comfortably in the pseudo state. Instead, I chose legitimacy. I bought a new flat on legitimate GC owned land at the market price, have set up a small business here virtually all of whose income dervies from exports, and pay all may taxes, even on cash transactions. You decide. Do you want foreigners like me in Cyprus or not?

I definitely do.

I also want you to respect the Cypriots who have suffered. And the suffering of gCypriots is immensely larger and unabated to this day.

Do you play chess or not?

Thanks for the first answer. However, you have to accept that I then have a legitimate right to take part in any demonstration held agains an anti-foreigner movement.

You do have that right. I will join you.
My point was totally another.

I may have misunderstood, in that case. Storm in a teacup, then.

You go on blowing up like that & you deny me my LEGITIMATE right to be inflammatory and say things such as:


Turkish-made teacup?

[Piratis]

There we are again. False dichotomies. You are either with us or against us. You either accept lock, stock and barrel the infantile, shallow, racist stereotype of Turks that Greek nationalists are indoctrinated with at birth, or else you are supporter of Turkish propaganda. There are no shades of grey. No poisitons in between. No subtleties. No analysis.

We are in a war with the Turks because they occupy our country. I don't care about your views about the Turks, but there is no "shades of grey" when it comes to respecting the culture, identity and the human and democratic rights of the people you choose to live among.

And I don't care about your simple stereotyped view of Turks which even one weekend visit to Turkey would dispel. That is precisley why I gave up posting on this forum, at least as far as the political sections are concerned go, as it might as well be renamed the 'ELAM forum'. I suggest that all other sane people do the same.

I have no "stereotyped view of Turks". When the Turks let my island free I will have no problem with them anymore. Or maybe it is an illusion that Turkish troops occupy our lands and if I go to Turkey this illusion will disappear?

Could you ask for a better example of a false dichotomy? I believe BOTH that Turkey ocupies Cyprus, AND reject the rascist stereotypes that people like you spout out. In fact, these childish stereotypical views are actually dangerous, because they lead to a misunderstanding and misinterpretation of what Turkey is up to in Cyprus. Anyway, I seriously cannot be bothered with the likes of you any more. I have more serious things to get on with.

What are the "stereotypical views" that you accuse me off? Is it a "stereotypical view" that Turkey occupies 1/3rd of our island? Is it a "stereotypical view" that the majority of Turks support the crimes that their army commits in Cyprus?

The racists are other people you associate with, who support the Turkification of the north part of our island by means of ethnic cleansing and do not accept that the Cypriots have the right to take democratic decisions about their own island.

[Bananiot]

Tim wrote

PS, Auntie, when I was a student in the UK many years ago, I was involved in the fight against the fascist National Front and was even hospitalised as a result. The National Front had an anti-immigrant platform, which they also - like ELAM now seems to be doing - put into practice on the streets with fists and knives.

Tim, was it the one at Turn Pike Lane? I was there too! In the seventees, if my memory serves me right.

[yialousa1971]

The above is Michalis Tsiakkas, a 62 year old who sells lottery tickets in Ledra street. The other day he was approached by a group of some eight ELAM "patriots" who were handing out leaflets. One of them asked him "are you for or against the immigrants". Michalis answered "my dear boys, with your logic all the Cypriots should leave England, Canada, America and the Greeks should leave Germany, Belgium and Australia.

The scoundrels jumped on hapless Michalis and the result you can see in the photo.

Remember how some forumers rushed to support these bastards and even tried to convince us that they were only after the illegal immigrants rather than all the foreigners?

The other day he was approached by a group of some eight ELAM "patriots" who were handing out leaflets.

Someones telling lies.

Eye witnesses said Michalis Tsiakkas was beaten by two youths belonging to the nationalist group, National Popular Front (ELAM), dozens of whom were handing out flyers in busy Ledra Street at lunchtime.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/elam- ... r/20110320

[yialousa1971]

Yialoser, seems to have disappeared to make a comment!

Are you below or above Banalot?