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[Tim Drayton]

There we are again. False dichotomies. You are either with us or against us. You either accept lock, stock and barrel the infantile, shallow, racist stereotype of Turks that Greek nationalists are indoctrinated with at birth, or else you are supporter of Turkish propaganda. There are no shades of grey. No poisitons in between. No subtleties. No analysis.

We are in a war with the Turks because they occupy our country. I don't care about your views about the Turks, but there is no "shades of grey" when it comes to respecting the culture, identity and the human and democratic rights of the people you choose to live among.

And I don't care about your simple stereotyped view of Turks which even one weekend visit to Turkey would dispel. That is precisley why I gave up posting on this forum, at least as far as the political sections are concerned go, as it might as well be renamed the 'ELAM forum'. I suggest that all other sane people do the same.

[Get Real!]

Yeah, ELAM suck big time!

And when they’re done getting beat up at Tim’s place they can come over to mine for dessert at 67 Bitsos St, Acropolis, Nicosia!


Oops… that’s DT’s address!

[Piratis]

My address is flat 201, Kola Court 2, Mihail Angelou, Agios Athanasios, Limassol. Go on, loudmouth, send a gang of your black shirted hoodlums to sort me out. You will see how afraid I am of fascist scum.

I don't think that was is a wise move. If you can't edit your post ask from Admin to delete your address asap.

ELAM is a far right group and they represent only a tiny minority of Cypriots. Such far right groups exist in most countries. Beyond that the people in Cyprus are no more and no less "anti-immigrant" than the people in any other developed country. It is very often to hear ordinary British people to complain about the immigrants in the UK, even though the UK has a much lower percentage of immigrants compared with Cyprus.

In other words, I was helping to defend cherished members of your Greek master race. Get you fascist skull around that!

And I am sure those Greeks respected their host nation, they didn't side with foreign invaders, and they respected your culture and identity, didn't they? I have no problem with any foreigner apart from those fascists who think that they have the right to impose on us their will and tell us what we have to do with our own island.

If you think I am joking, let them come. I have visited the Nazi death camp at Ausschwitz, and ever since the slogan "never again!" has meant a great deal more to me.

You think that if they come the only thing they can do is scratch your face a bit and make you a hero in the news? Some of them are totally brainless and they don't need a lot of provoking to commit a serious crime and ruin your and their own lives.

You seem to know them quite well.

What I know is not a secret and, unlike you, I don't want to know them any better.

[quattro]

Still no answer. Do you baying pack of nationalist, bogoted halfwits, who incidentally bear absolutely no similarity to the many Greek Cypriot people I rub shoulders with on a daily basis, actually want a foreigner like me among your midst, or not. Cat got your tongue?

I will answer that : Tim we need aprox. 100000 of you in cyprus

[Tim Drayton]

There we are again. False dichotomies. You are either with us or against us. You either accept lock, stock and barrel the infantile, shallow, racist stereotype of Turks that Greek nationalists are indoctrinated with at birth, or else you are supporter of Turkish propaganda. There are no shades of grey. No poisitons in between. No subtleties. No analysis.

We are in a war with the Turks because they occupy our country. I don't care about your views about the Turks, but there is no "shades of grey" when it comes to respecting the culture, identity and the human and democratic rights of the people you choose to live among.

"no "shades of grey" when it comes to respecting the culture, identity and the human and democratic rights of the people you choose to live among."

Thank you. "You are either with us, or against us." QED.

[Piratis]

There we are again. False dichotomies. You are either with us or against us. You either accept lock, stock and barrel the infantile, shallow, racist stereotype of Turks that Greek nationalists are indoctrinated with at birth, or else you are supporter of Turkish propaganda. There are no shades of grey. No poisitons in between. No subtleties. No analysis.

We are in a war with the Turks because they occupy our country. I don't care about your views about the Turks, but there is no "shades of grey" when it comes to respecting the culture, identity and the human and democratic rights of the people you choose to live among.

And I don't care about your simple stereotyped view of Turks which even one weekend visit to Turkey would dispel. That is precisley why I gave up posting on this forum, at least as far as the political sections are concerned go, as it might as well be renamed the 'ELAM forum'. I suggest that all other sane people do the same.

I have no "stereotyped view of Turks". When the Turks let my island free I will have no problem with them anymore. Or maybe it is an illusion that Turkish troops occupy our lands and if I go to Turkey this illusion will disappear?

[Tim Drayton]

Still no answer. Do you baying pack of nationalist, bogoted halfwits, who incidentally bear absolutely no similarity to the many Greek Cypriot people I rub shoulders with on a daily basis, actually want a foreigner like me among your midst, or not. Cat got your tongue?

I will answer that : Tim we need aprox. 100000 of you in cyprus

Thanks. I know that, actually. All of the other people in my block are Greek Cypriots, and I am in contact with ordinary Greek Cypriot people almost every day. I know that these thugs are a tiny minority. Don't worry.

[Tim Drayton]

There we are again. False dichotomies. You are either with us or against us. You either accept lock, stock and barrel the infantile, shallow, racist stereotype of Turks that Greek nationalists are indoctrinated with at birth, or else you are supporter of Turkish propaganda. There are no shades of grey. No poisitons in between. No subtleties. No analysis.

We are in a war with the Turks because they occupy our country. I don't care about your views about the Turks, but there is no "shades of grey" when it comes to respecting the culture, identity and the human and democratic rights of the people you choose to live among.

And I don't care about your simple stereotyped view of Turks which even one weekend visit to Turkey would dispel. That is precisley why I gave up posting on this forum, at least as far as the political sections are concerned go, as it might as well be renamed the 'ELAM forum'. I suggest that all other sane people do the same.

I have no "stereotyped view of Turks". When the Turks let my island free I will have no problem with them anymore. Or maybe it is an illusion that Turkish troops occupy our lands and if I go to Turkey this illusion will disappear?

Could you ask for a better example of a false dichotomy? I believe BOTH that Turkey ocupies Cyprus, AND reject the rascist stereotypes that people like you spout out. In fact, these childish stereotypical views are actually dangerous, because they lead to a misunderstanding and misinterpretation of what Turkey is up to in Cyprus. Anyway, I seriously cannot be bothered with the likes of you any more. I have more serious things to get on with.

[antifon]

PS, Auntie, I came to Cyprus after 2004 as an EU citizen, availing myself of precisely the same right to come and settle here as a Cypriot has any where in the EU. I can speak fluent Turkish and could have chosen to buy a GC-owned property in the north at a knock-down price, and have lived quite comfortably in the pseudo state. Instead, I chose legitimacy. I bought a new flat on legitimate GC owned land at the market price, have set up a small business here virtually all of whose income dervies from exports, and pay all may taxes, even on cash transactions. You decide. Do you want foreigners like me in Cyprus or not?

I definitely do.

I also want you to respect the Cypriots who have suffered. And the suffering of gCypriots is immensely larger and unabated to this day.

Do you play chess or not?

Thanks for the first answer. However, you have to accept that I then have a legitimate right to take part in any demonstration held agains an anti-foreigner movement.

You do have that right. I will join you.
My point was totally another.

[Tim Drayton]

PS, Auntie, I came to Cyprus after 2004 as an EU citizen, availing myself of precisely the same right to come and settle here as a Cypriot has any where in the EU. I can speak fluent Turkish and could have chosen to buy a GC-owned property in the north at a knock-down price, and have lived quite comfortably in the pseudo state. Instead, I chose legitimacy. I bought a new flat on legitimate GC owned land at the market price, have set up a small business here virtually all of whose income dervies from exports, and pay all may taxes, even on cash transactions. You decide. Do you want foreigners like me in Cyprus or not?

I definitely do.

I also want you to respect the Cypriots who have suffered. And the suffering of gCypriots is immensely larger and unabated to this day.

Do you play chess or not?

Thanks for the first answer. However, you have to accept that I then have a legitimate right to take part in any demonstration held agains an anti-foreigner movement.

You do have that right. I will join you.
My point was totally another.

I may have misunderstood, in that case. Storm in a teacup, then.