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Postby kurupetos » Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:02 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:For the avoidance of doubt no one human is any more raciallly pure, superior, inferior etc than any other - we ultimately are all descended from the same source and indeed most humans could have a common ancestor as claose back as 7500 years ago.


What's the point of this rubbish then? :?
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Postby SKI-preo » Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:33 am

Now you are pakis
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Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:24 am

bill cobbett wrote:Yep... we're still the same people in a kind of way.

It's Cultures that are modified by new influences, by new migrations, by conquests etc, not wholesale population movements or exchanges.

Agreed: and this is what started in what is now Greece at some point between 2000BC and 1500 BC with invasion of the Achaean/Mycenaeans, and in Cyprus at some point between about 1200 BC and 300BC, the latter date being when Ptolomy conquered Cyprus and suppressed the various independant Kingdoms, some of which were not Greek/Greek Speaking.
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Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:38 am

SpartanGamer wrote:
Sykes and Oppenheimer argued for significant immigration from Iberia into Britain and Ireland. Much of this argument was based upon Y DNA evidence, however by 2010 several major Y DNA studies presented more complete data, showing that the oldest-surviving male lineages had mostly migrated to Britain from the Balkans, and ultimately from the Middle East, not from Iberia.

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Yes I have seen that somewhere too, but my understanding is that this does not represent a significant proportion of the Y Dna and I understand that Sykes and Oppenheimer also used MtDna which shows that the majority of the ancestors of the British genos came from Iberia. Until recent immigration the genos has remained quite stable, despite a number of invasions , such as the Belgea, the Romans, the Angles, Saxons and Jutes, the Normans, etc.
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Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:48 am

SpartanGamer wrote:
Sykes and Oppenheimer argued for significant immigration from Iberia into Britain and Ireland. Much of this argument was based upon Y DNA evidence, however by 2010 several major Y DNA studies presented more complete data, showing that the oldest-surviving male lineages had mostly migrated to Britain from the Balkans, and ultimately from the Middle East, not from Iberia.

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Yes I read that too but understand this does not represent a significant part of the Genos of the British: Sykes and Oppenheimer also used MtDna and the conclusion still remains that the majority are from the R1b peoples who originated in Iberia.
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Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:57 am

SKI-preo wrote:Now you are pakis


No: they have not yet made a significant contribution to the gene pool, and they could in any event be of Greek descent. There are some indications that in particular the Kalesh in NW Pakistan may have ancestors who were a part of Alexander's army.
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Postby kurupetos » Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:14 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:Now you are pakis


No: they have not yet made a significant contribution to the gene pool, and they could in any event be of Greek descent. There are some indications that in particular the Kalesh in NW Pakistan may have ancestors who were a part of Alexander's army.


The English are of Greek descent, they worshipped Apollo in Stonehenge.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/histo ... henge.html
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Postby quattro » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:59 pm

kurupetos wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:Now you are pakis


No: they have not yet made a significant contribution to the gene pool, and they could in any event be of Greek descent. There are some indications that in particular the Kalesh in NW Pakistan may have ancestors who were a part of Alexander's army.


The English are of Greek descent, they worshipped Apollo in Stonehenge.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/histo ... henge.html


Kouroupettos gene pool is full of genes holding the Greek flag :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby kurupetos » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:01 pm

quattro wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:Now you are pakis


No: they have not yet made a significant contribution to the gene pool, and they could in any event be of Greek descent. There are some indications that in particular the Kalesh in NW Pakistan may have ancestors who were a part of Alexander's army.


The English are of Greek descent, they worshipped Apollo in Stonehenge.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/histo ... henge.html


Kouroupettos gene pool is full of genes holding the Greek flag :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I'm beginning to think you are of Lurucadi descent. :roll:
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Postby quattro » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:04 pm

kurupetos wrote:
quattro wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:Now you are pakis


No: they have not yet made a significant contribution to the gene pool, and they could in any event be of Greek descent. There are some indications that in particular the Kalesh in NW Pakistan may have ancestors who were a part of Alexander's army.


The English are of Greek descent, they worshipped Apollo in Stonehenge.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/histo ... henge.html


Kouroupettos gene pool is full of genes holding the Greek flag :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I'm beginning to think you are of Lurucadi descent. :roll:

Nobody knows maybe :lol: :lol:
can you imagine your self having a 0.000000001 difference with erdogan in DNA :lol: :lol: :lol:
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