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Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:54 am

Haven't had any of these in many years...

Egypt warns Israel against military action in Gaza
http://af.reuters.com/article/egyptNews ... 5220110323

Jordan warns against any military escalation after Jerusalem blast
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/ ... alem-blast
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:03 am

Gadhafi paid US PR firm for 2009 UN visit

Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi paid a public relations firm hundreds of thousands of dollars to help him improve his image during a visit to the United States in 2009, Justice Department records show.

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/152015 ... 9-un-visit

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Postby bill cobbett » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:16 am

Get Real! wrote:Gadhafi paid US PR firm for 2009 UN visit

Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi paid a public relations firm hundreds of thousands of dollars to help him improve his image during a visit to the United States in 2009, Justice Department records show.

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/152015 ... 9-un-visit

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Jeees, some of us could have done a better job for a lot less.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:20 pm

Syrian government resigns: state television

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad accepted the resignation of the government on Tuesday, Syrian state television said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110329/wl_ ... esignation


The Kill Team

How U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan murdered innocent civilians and mutilated their corpses – and how their officers failed to stop them. Plus: An exclusive look at the war crime photos censored by the Pentagon

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ne ... m-20110327
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Postby NEVERSAYNEVER » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:51 pm

And what exactly does an act in Afghanistan have to do with te ME
the thread is about Western intervention in Liby and not about American attrocities committed by drug crazed soldiers.
Are you by any chance an American hater ???
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Postby NEVERSAYNEVER » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:52 pm

And what exactly does an act in Afghanistan have to do with te ME
the thread is about Western intervention in Liby and not about American attrocities committed by drug crazed soldiers.
Are you by any chance an American hater ???
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:18 pm

NEVERSAYNEVER wrote:And what exactly does an act in Afghanistan have to do with te ME
the thread is about Western intervention in Liby

How right you are! You've inspired me to dig up the appropriate thread which I was too lazy to look for!

and not about American attrocities committed by drug crazed soldiers. Are you by any chance an American hater ???

Moi? :? Heavens no! I'm an admirer of all their atrocities and that's why I document them lest the world forgets!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24023
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:32 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote: Also, there is very little a no fly zone can achieve other than protect rebel strongholds and the Libyan Liberation Movement from aerial attack. It cannot for instance topple the Gaddafi regime, and bring about some form of regime change. It cannot protect the Liberation Movement from Gadaffi's superior ground forces. That will require multinational troops and a full scale invasion with high intensity warfare with Gaddafi's Libyan Armed Forces. Very costly indeed, and not something that the US or its allies would want! So it should be no surprise to anyone that the West has cold feet about all this.


Paphitis,

This is one of those situation that I believe just the Air Power alone will get rid off Gaddafi and that foreign troops need not be on the ground. The reason being, there are a lot of Libyans on the ground who are willing to fight to liberate Libya from this madman. All they need is air support and some more weapons. Only couple of weeks ago they were almost in Tripoli, but have gotten pushed back since then. Had they had air support "No Fly Zone" in place then, they would have already hung Gaddafi by his balls, along with his Prick sons.

But lets be clear, that this is not going to be just a "no fly zone" operation. This is going to be decimation of the Libyan military on the ground. Once the Libyan air defence system is crippled, I expect the American to send in a squadron of their A-10's. As you know, this plane is basically a Gatling Gun with wings on and they will destroy any Libyan armament on the ground. It will turn Libyan tanks into confetti as if it went through a mince machine. That's what the Iraqi army found out during the first Gulf war in 1990 at what had become to be known as the "Highway of Death", as they tried to retreat back to Iraq from Kuwait. Gaddafi's is now on borrowed time and he will end up in the Hague along with his sons, unless they end up like the Saddam and sons first. Looks like Erdogan is about to lose another close friend for the sake of Democracy. It was shameful of Turkey objecting the use of NATO to take part in Libya, so now, once again Turkey finds herself on the wrong side of history and also on the shit list of many western countries, and perhaps even in the Arab World too, since the Arab League also approved the "no fly zone".

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A-10 Thunderbolt (Warthog)

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Above pictures are what the A-10 did in Iraq, 1990.


Paphitis wrote:But again, what is impressive is the Obama's recognition that something needs to be done, for the sake of the Libyan people, despite some well founded reservations.


Obama has been great, and despite the US being at war at two different countries, he was willing to commit US air power to the Libyan liberation cause, but he had to be careful not to be compared to George Bush for going and attacking another country without a UN resolution. Lets not forget, that he is up for re-election in 2012, and even though it is quiet far away, US elections will start picking up speed come next January, even though that will be true mostly for the Republicans and not for the Democrats. Last thing Obama wants to do, is to give the Republicans anything relating to Libya for them to attack him on during the elections. Once the Arab league gave their approval for the "no fly zone" operation, that gave him the Green Light to go ahead, even though France is leading the charge, but no doubt Obama and Clinton managed to get the necessary UN resolution for the go ahead and at the same time, preventing any veto vote from China and Russia. Democracy Craze is on the move once again.!:D


Well, Tripoli is about to fall and Libya Liberated from the madman for a leader, as predicted above, that the Libyan people themselves will take care of Gaddafi and Liberate Libya with only arms given to them without the need of foreign troops on the ground. Looks like Erdogan is about to lose another dictator friend in the Arab World, Gaddafi. Syria will be next on the list for the West to arm the civilians with the help of NATO's AirPower to take down the other Erdogan's lunatic dictator friend, Assad. :D :D :D
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Re: Should the West intervene in Libya ?

Postby Kikapu » Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:48 pm

Gaddafi stated in his message to the world, that he left Tripoli for undisclosed location for "tactical reasons".

Yeah! I think it means saving your ass for a little while longer in plain English. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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