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Postby Patto » Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:36 pm

NEVERSAYNEVER wrote:The Arab world will NEVER be free . Any nation that has no religious freedom does not have any other freedom also.
Their archaic religion keeps them enslaved and always will do.


Anyone in a religion is enslaved....not just the Arabic
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Postby NEVERSAYNEVER » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:07 pm

I think you will agree that their religion is far more dogmatic and prohibitory than most other , equally false , religions . The very fact that these nations have remained stubbornly buried in the past refusing to join the rest of the world is indicative of the fierceness surrounding their beliefs .
They may succeed in ridding them selves of their despotic regimes but for as long as their religion is their driving force they will always be slaves to one or the other.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:48 pm

You cannot condemn people to live under tyranny because of their religion,NSN...The vilification and demonisation of Islam has taken new forums...But the Libyan people should be given a chance to get rid of this lunatic,and we will worry about his successor later...I doubt that we will see a worse despot than Gaddafi anytime soon in Libya...His depARTURE WILL ALSO KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING FOR THE FALL OF OTHER DESPOTS IN THE REGION,WITH OR WITHOUT WESTERN ASSITANCE...(oops,accidental capitals) :oops:
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Postby NEVERSAYNEVER » Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:14 pm

Sir , allready the Arab league is critical of the action taken so far .
As far as religion goes , I do not have the slightest respect for any religion that condones and encourages violence , it is obvious that this religion and it's religious leaders promote violence , such acts are not to be excused under any circumstances . justifying violent acts and the killing of innocent people is abhorent . As one who does not cate much for any religion I can honestly say that religion is the opium of the people and I'm not a communist !!!
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Postby Patto » Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:27 pm

"As far as religion goes , I do not have the slightest respect for any religion that condones and encourages violence , it is obvious that this religion and it's religious leaders promote violence , such acts are not to be excused under any circumstances"

So how do you suppose we remove these people? With an angry letter?

No, through violence like you will agree is happening. You seem to contradict what you believe with what you want to happen.

I am all for getting rid of Gaddaffi etc however blaming the Arabic religion on such problems is quite a big thing to put across. I agree that certain aspects of the Muslim faith does seem to allow a freedom towards being violent but then again you could say the same of Christianity. As I am sure your aware over 70% of Americans go to church each week which would suggest alot of their armed personal are religious......
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Postby NEVERSAYNEVER » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:00 pm

Here we go again !!!!
Sir , Christians are not being discussed here neither ate the Budhists , we are dealing with people who have only themselves to blame , just look at the entire ME, not one single democratic nation , all religious , all hypocrites .
I see no logical reason as to why my son should fight to protect Libyans or any other group of Arabs for that matter. The onus to liberate them selves lies with them not the West . Does anyone think that if Gaddafi is toppled there will be a democratic outcome ??
No Sir I don't think so . Right this moment the Muslim Brotherhood as well as the Arab L of nations are critisizing the West for having taken military action .
Let me put another way , it's NOT our war we should keep out !!
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Postby NEVERSAYNEVER » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:29 pm

I have just listened on Al Jazeera that President Christophias has told the British that he does not want British aircraft at Akrotiri being used in attacks against Libya , he may have already seen the folly of this action by the West .The Arab League continues it's criticisms over the attacks , while Russia condemns the military action taken so far .
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Postby Linichka » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:18 pm

And imagine what the fat old farts would be saying, had no action been taken by anybody. God knows, they couldn't have managed to do anything. All they can manage is to sit around their cafes and smoke their water pipes and bitch about what is happening.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:29 pm

We’ve all been so preoccupied with the air attacks against Libya lately that we glanced away from the rest of the world, but I’m sure you’ll be relieved to know that in other parts like the ME there have been no disruptions whatsoever and its business as usual!

Turkish warplanes bombard areas in northern Iraq
http://en.aswataliraq.info/Default1.asp ... 141538&l=1

Hamas Fires Dozens of Mortars at Israel
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011/03 ... ?ref=world

Israel strikes Gaza after massive mortar barrage on south
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... h-1.350171

Now you can all get a good night’s sleep! :D
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Postby BirKibrisli » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:06 am

NEVERSAYNEVER wrote:Sir , allready the Arab league is critical of the action taken so far .
As far as religion goes , I do not have the slightest respect for any religion that condones and encourages violence , it is obvious that this religion and it's religious leaders promote violence , such acts are not to be excused under any circumstances . justifying violent acts and the killing of innocent people is abhorent . As one who does not cate much for any religion I can honestly say that religion is the opium of the people and I'm not a communist !!!


We agree that religion is the opium of the people..Not just Islam but all religions...You mustn't single out Islam lest people think you are a one-eyeded bigot who I don't believe you are,sir...

Islam is nothing but a new version of Judaism and Christianity..It is true that many have used its teachings to advance their own causes often with violence...This should be no reason to condemn 99% of Muslims who are God fearing,peaceful people...

The Western action is,like in Iraq,about oil...But if its side effect would be to liberate the Libyan people from tyranny of a madman,I would turn a blind eye...
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