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you are wrong raymanoff.....

Postby cymart » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:13 am

My Russian friends stayed in the north after arriving from Ercan but got Cyprus visas beforehand from the Moscow Embassy and came to see me in Paphos using various checkpoints before flying back to Turkey from Ercan.Another year,I think they either flew to Larnaca and left from Ercan or the other way round without any problems.The main thing is that you must have a Cyprus entry visa to either fly here direct to larnaca or enter this ide from the north.
Anyway,as long as they have visa all the rest is nonesense,especially when people are dying in wars and now of radiation while I write this!
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Postby Sotos » Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:03 am

Anyway,as long as they have visa all the rest is nonesense,especially when people are dying in wars and now of radiation while I write this!


The nonsense is what you say. What happens elsewhere is not an excuse to break the law in Cyprus.
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Postby fig head » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:43 am

bla bla bla..... Cyprus problem concern Cypriots and i totaly feel for them but going to the North side and coming back to it from Cyprus have nothing wrong to do with it..


1st let me tell you who ever was offensive to my post like paphitis is closed minded.. have some respect for others opinions even if it iswrong or based on confused facts... this is childish grow up.

2nd if it is elligal as THE BOOK saysso why the heck does the Cyp govn open its gates from people coming from the north??????????

and if im allowed to come to Cyprus would it matter where did i enter it from it isnt like all the people enter Cyprus from the illegaly occupied area are criminals ????


well, you have bigger problems than the visitors that came through the north.. you dont have the north focus on that would you


and stop making silly ass comments ,maybe one day ill think umm you being smart the next day ill think umm thats rude....



Now i know why people on this forum swear at each other and make silly comments all the time.. no respect at all..
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Re: you are wrong raymanoff.....

Postby fig head » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:44 am

cymart wrote:My Russian friends stayed in the north after arriving from Ercan but got Cyprus visas beforehand from the Moscow Embassy and came to see me in Paphos using various checkpoints before flying back to Turkey from Ercan.Another year,I think they either flew to Larnaca and left from Ercan or the other way round without any problems.The main thing is that you must have a Cyprus entry visa to either fly here direct to larnaca or enter this ide from the north.
Anyway,as long as they have visa all the rest is nonesense,especially when people are dying in wars and now of radiation while I write this!


mprabo Cymart... im surrprised no one called you an idiot yet
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Postby humanist » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:52 am

I think the only time they would run the risk is when they arrive at the illegally used Timbou airport via Turkey, then cross the Green Line to the free area. Otherwise the RoC does not know who enters the 'trnc" because they are unaccountable. But that measure will stop some.

The problem is that the TCs will suffer because they will have reduced income coming into the country. Therefore less spending more dependence on Turkey or unification and partnership in a democratic Island Nation of Cyprus.

Eroglu needs to think hard and strong about where he wants to take the TC destiny. Loose it it in a big Turkey or maintain it in a United Cyprus.
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Postby halil » Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:41 pm

Arguments ....arguments...........read more from below and ?????????!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/t ... ID=1999683

I'm an American citizen who flew into Ercan airport (Northern Cyprus) and who immediately crossed into Cyprus at the Ledra Palace crossing. Now, I had a Greek Cypriot friend waiting for me on the Turkish side who escorted me (and he also escorted me out via the Ledra crossing a few days later). I had ZERO problems. Granted, he was there, but his cousin is a police officer and he double-checked with him before I entered Greek Cyprus. He said for Americans, there'd be no problems, and he was right.

But if I remember correctly, there was an American (I think he was, but he was definitely a non-EU westerner) who said he entered in the North, crossed to the South, and left via Lanarca. He said no one batted an eyelid. That's not to recommend it (I certainly didn't do that), but I guess it depends on your luck of who you get at passport control.

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I've been posting to that effect here for years. There are three groups of people:

1) People that need a visa to enter the Republic (i.e. the South). They may not cross the Green Line North to South and if they attempt to do so may be arrested and/or deported. This usually happens more frequently in the summer months when there is usually a crack-down lasting for several weeks.
2) Non-EU citizens that do not need a visa (e.g. US, Canada, Australia, Japan). These are usually allowed to cross but may not leave the island via LCA after having entered at Kyrenia or Ercan without being fined or at leaast questioned at length.
3) EU citizens. They fall under the EU directive 866/2004 which grants them unimpeded travel across the Green Line regardless of point of entry.
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OP's warning also applies to other countries with unrecgnised secessionist-controlled territories. For example, if you enter Georgia from Russia via Abkhazia you risk arrest (either at the de facto border or when you try to leave Georgia). Serbia can be similarly awkward about people who enter via Kosovo. Entering Moldova from Ukraine via Pridnistrovye is usually more straightforward but can lead at least to delays and requests for facilitating payments.

As with the Cyprus case, enforcement is arbitrary depending on the political situation, the traveller's passport (EU treated better) and how the guard feels that day.
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Postby humanist » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:30 pm

I'm an American citizen who flew into Ercan airport (Northern Cyprus) and who immediately crossed into Cyprus at the Ledra Palace crossing. Now, I had a Greek Cypriot friend waiting for me on the Turkish side who escorted me (and he also escorted me out via the Ledra crossing a few days later). I had ZERO problems. Granted, he was there, but his cousin is a police officer and he double-checked with him before I entered Greek Cyprus. He said for Americans, there'd be no problems, and he was right.


Why would you fly to an illegal airport, how come your proud to announce it and was is the purpose of supporting a regime that denies 200.000 other Cypriots their human rights. Sorry I will not consider you a cypriot. Not that it matters whether or not I consider you a cypriot or not.
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