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[BirKibrisli]

ur right. how about we tie ur limbs to the spokes of a large wooden wheel; then we slowly turn the wheel and smash ur limbs one by one with an iron hammer, breaking them in many places. then we place the wheel on a tall pole so birds can pick at and eat ur flesh instead?

GC democracy for everyone to see, thank you for confirming you still harbour these feeling towards TCs who oppose your dream of turning the whole of Cyprus into a Greek island and forcing us to live as a minority under GC dominance.

why would i want to do that when i could completely restrain you and then place a rat on ur stomach covered by a metallic container which is gradually heated, forcing the rat to escape - and the only way is through ur body, digging a hole into ur intestines?

Do you have to force yourself to be sadistic or does it come naturally???

[DT.]

I not only support a Kurdish VP but also that they get their own state but you want to deny us that right anti you a hypocrite. You also conveniently forget the Kurds do not have any international agreement that confirms their partnership in Turkey so a comparison is not possible, you also forget that you GCs are trying to get rid of the 1960 agreements but then on the same breath want to apply it to the Kurds, for gods sake make up your minds.

The difference is the Kurd have their own land for a state, whereas the TCs do not have their own land for a state of their own. The nearest possibility for the TCs belonging to a any state, other than the RoC, is Turkey. There are only two choices for the TCs. Either stay in Cyprus and become an equal citizen in the RoC, or go to Turkey and hope that you can become equal citizen with the Turks. All things being equal, Turkey should be a Confederation with the Kurds. The TCs also do not have any International agreement to form their own state by ethnically cleansing 200,000 from their land. That is more in line with International crime than having International right for self determination..

Do you know the difference between private land ownership and sovereignty everybody appears to be real confused you included. We have sovereignty rights and individuals have their own private property rights. They are not the same and if the GCs have a sovereignty then we do as well.

Plus the Kurds have not lost their rights to their private land their sovereignty was signed away and if they want a separate state then I support them Turkey would be better of without that region anyway. This is also our right as we have sovereignty rights and do not want to use this jointly with Gcs as we cannot live work or run a country together so time to have a velvet separation.

Once again, will someone show me these sovereign rights that have been given to the tcs? VP keeps going on about them, where are they?

so there are no sovereign rights...where did you get the idea from?

[Viewpoint]

The sovereign rights of the island Cyprus belong to its people of which the TCs are included, it is not exclusively in the hands of the Gcs this is something the GCs need to grasp and understand.

[Viewpoint]

The sovereign rights of the island Cyprus belong to its people of which the TCs are included, it is not exclusively in the hands of the Gcs this is something the GCs need to grasp and understand.

[antifon]

The sovereign rights of the island Cyprus belong to its people of which the TCs are included, it is not exclusively in the hands of the Gcs this is something the GCs need to grasp and understand.

[ZoC]

ur right. how about we tie ur limbs to the spokes of a large wooden wheel; then we slowly turn the wheel and smash ur limbs one by one with an iron hammer, breaking them in many places. then we place the wheel on a tall pole so birds can pick at and eat ur flesh instead?

GC democracy for everyone to see, thank you for confirming you still harbour these feeling towards TCs who oppose your dream of turning the whole of Cyprus into a Greek island and forcing us to live as a minority under GC dominance.

why would i want to do that when i could completely restrain you and then place a rat on ur stomach covered by a metallic container which is gradually heated, forcing the rat to escape - and the only way is through ur body, digging a hole into ur intestines?

Do you have to force yourself to be sadistic or does it come naturally???

it's certainly tortuous reading some of vp's deliberately provocative contributions. this is my current coping mechanism.

[quattro]

The sovereign rights of the island Cyprus belong to its people of which the TCs are included, it is not exclusively in the hands of the Gcs this is something the GCs need to grasp and understand.

Yes I agree with you here VP....... so come join ROC to have any other wise you
have nothing

[Viewpoint]

The sovereign rights of the island Cyprus belong to its people of which the TCs are included, it is not exclusively in the hands of the Gcs this is something the GCs need to grasp and understand.

Yes I agree with you here VP....... so come join ROC to have any other wise you
have nothing

Thats why we are trying to negotiate the new order as the old one didnt work.

[antifon]

The sovereign rights of the island Cyprus belong to its people of which the TCs are included, it is not exclusively in the hands of the Gcs this is something the GCs need to grasp and understand.

Yes I agree with you here VP....... so come join ROC to have any other wise you
have nothing

Thats why we are trying to negotiate the new order as the old one didnt work.

So is Edogan.
The truth is neither 1923 nor 1960 worked.

Erdogan is Turks' Makarios in a sense: trying to (ostensibly, some incl. me, say) take rights away from the majority to give to the minority.

Read up VP. Coming soon to a negotiating table near you:
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2010/12/pre ... osals.html

[quattro]

The sovereign rights of the island Cyprus belong to its people of which the TCs are included, it is not exclusively in the hands of the Gcs this is something the GCs need to grasp and understand.

Yes I agree with you here VP....... so come join ROC to have any other wise you
have nothing

Thats why we are trying to negotiate the new order as the old one didnt work.

IMHO its working just fine with all the EU laws if you cannot accept International law nobody can help you .