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should the tcs be uttering human rights?...

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Postby Mapko » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:48 am

mem101...I refer to island Turks and mainland Turks to differentiate between the two. I didn't think of it as being racist in the slightest as I wouldn't be offiended with island Greeks and mainland Greeks. I shall refer to you all as Turks because, as I've stated about Greeks, if it talks Turk, has Turk religion, eats Turk, sleeps Turk, cries Turk, laughs Turk it's Turk.
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Postby Pax » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:25 am

They're both wrong.

The T negotiator/s are wrong because rights to citizenship are civil and political rights, not human rights. The GC negotiator/s are wrong because they can't control reproduction, not even of their 'own people'.

And this forum thread is misleading because most posters (especially GC posters) have fallen for the T. negotiators confusion.

Like so much on CF, a mess made messier.
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Postby DTA » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:40 am

Pax wrote:They're both wrong.

The T negotiator/s are wrong because rights to citizenship are civil and political rights, not human rights. The GC negotiator/s are wrong because they can't control reproduction, not even of their 'own people'.

And this forum thread is misleading because most posters (especially GC posters) have fallen for the T. negotiators confusion.

Like so much on CF, a mess made messier.


How dare you come on here spouting your logic... this is no place for logic :lol:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:46 pm

Memo...Stick around and you will find out why I have changed my mind about a Unitary state with full democracy and human rights solution...Democracies only work when the majority are mature enough and educated enough and cultured enough to respect their minorities...To have empathy and compassion for them...You cannot put yourself at risk in a "democracy" where the racists,fascists,fanatical nationalists and assorted bigots call the shots...
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:12 pm

Calling each other fascists and bigots, is as interesting as watching the grass grow! :roll:

We used to have interesting debates over technical CyProb matters here, so what happened? :?

I’m just so bored of you all… Image
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Postby Mapko » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:14 pm

mem101...By the way, I forgot to mention - the illegal occupation of Cyprus by the Turk army is offensive and therefore racist.
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Postby B25 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:24 pm

Get Real! wrote:Calling each other fascists and bigots, is as interesting as watching the grass grow! :roll:

We used to have interesting debates over technical CyProb matters here, so what happened? :?

I’m just so bored of you all… Image


All the technical stuff has all been said, but the Turks don't want to hear it, so they start throwing insults to make themselves look harder. They must think if they shout loud enough we'll get scared and agree to all they demand!

I doubt there is anymore that can be said that hasn't already, but I am willing to listen.

I have seen much from you technically btw, so what you saying??
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Postby Mapko » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:36 pm

BirKibrisli...

Who are the racists? A nation that turns beautiful, centuries old churches into mosques?; a nation that destroys religious artifacts because it doesn't register in their (nowhere near as old) beliefs?

Who are the fascists? A nation that invades a small island with tanks, jet-fighters, napalm, machine guns and more soldiers than there are inhabitants?; a nation of people who rape, maim and murder unarmed civilians, including women, children, the elderly and priests?; a nation that divides a country and continues to illegally stay in that divided nation?; an army who shoot defenceless people climbing a flag pole?; a nation that spits at and throws missiles at visiting Cypriot football teams?

Who are the fanatical nationalists? A population of people who put a huge flag on a mountain, in an illegally occupied capital, and proceed to mount huge spot lights so the flag is lit up at night?; a population whose flag is the inverted colours of its parent nation?; a nation that spits at and throws missiles at visiting Cypriot football teams?

Who are the bigots? A population whose neighbours have fought to get crossings open so they can come across the border and earn more money in a week than they would normally earn in three months?
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Postby B25 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:40 pm

Mapko wrote:BirKibrisli...

Who are the racists? A nation that turns beautiful, centuries old churches into mosques?; a nation that destroys religious artefacts because it doesn't register in their (nowhere near as old) beliefs?

Who are the fascists? A nation that invades a small island with tanks, jet-fighters, napalm, machine guns and more soldiers than there are inhabitants?; a nation of people who rape, maim and murder unarmed civilians, including women, children, the elderly and priests?; a nation that divides a country and continues to illegally stay in that divided nation?; an army who shoot defenceless people climbing a flag pole?; a nation that spits at and throws missiles at visiting Cypriot football teams?

Who are the fanatical nationalists? A popluation of people who put a huge flag on a mountain, in an illegally occupied capital, and proceed to mount huge spot lights so the flag is lit up at night?; a poulation whose flag is the inverted colours of its parent nation?; a nation that spits at and throws missiles at visiting Cypriot football teams?

Who are the bigots? A population whose neighbours have fought to get crossings open so they can come across the border and earn more money in a week than they would normally earn in three months?


Excellent post, bravo sou file. I think you have just about summed up the TCs.
If I could I would have all that in my signature as a reminder to would be readers of this forum. It should be made into a stickey and admin should frame it as a reminder.

Better still, ask Bananiotoglu who in the education department to contact to get this put into the school curriculum so our young never forget.

All the same, well said.
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Postby Mapko » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:45 pm

B25...Euxapistw file mou.
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