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Postby ZoC » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:29 pm

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BirKibrisli wrote:My questions still remain unanswered...Who gave them this 'mission'? did they recieve permission to carry out their 'mission'??? What were they doing in the 'forbidden military zone' if not acting as provocateurs????:


Why don't you just give up? They were a delegation from a Committee of the EU Parliament on a tour of derelict Orthodox Christian churches and cemeteries in the occupied areas. They don't need "permission" to visit deserted religious monuments and cemeteries. They are everywhere in the north.

The "forbidden military zone" as you put it, is an abandoned church on the edge of a ghost town which the Turkish army insanely guard (as the CM article above aptly puts it).


If you really believe the Turkish army had no choice but to arrest these people then you truly have sunk to the same level of belligerence and stupidity that keeps Turkish troops "guarding" the abandoned town of Varosha. Now give it a rest.



Do you know how stupid you sound Birkibrisli is asking some valid questions yet you ignore them, these people broke the law and paid the price simple. What you cant accept is that you have no control over the north and we do, you have to obey our laws just as we have to obey yours if we travel south. You need a reality check the "pseudo state" you try to dismiss just slapped you right in the face...gunaydin.


he only sounds stupid to u 'cos ur an idiot.

i can see why the turkish regime have an issue with freedom of speech, when turks like u exercise it in such an excruciating way. i'd rather listen to the sound chalk makes when it squeaks against a blackboard than ur pathetic drivel. u really are the most annoying person on the planet. i know it's not a popularity contest... but ur still the biggest loser, by a f*cking country mile...
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:31 pm

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BirKibrisli wrote:My questions still remain unanswered...Who gave them this 'mission'? did they recieve permission to carry out their 'mission'??? What were they doing in the 'forbidden military zone' if not acting as provocateurs????:


Why don't you just give up? They were a delegation from a Committee of the EU Parliament on a tour of derelict Orthodox Christian churches and cemeteries in the occupied areas. They don't need "permission" to visit deserted religious monuments and cemeteries. They are everywhere in the north.

The "forbidden military zone" as you put it, is an abandoned church on the edge of a ghost town which the Turkish army insanely guard (as the CM article above aptly puts it).

Do you know how stupid you sound Birkibrisli is asking some valid questions yet you ignore them, these people broke the law and paid the price simple. What you cant accept is that you have no control over the north and we do, you have to obey our laws just as we have to obey yours if we travel south. You need a reality check the "pseudo state" you try to dismiss just slapped you right in the face...gunaydin.

If you really believe the Turkish army had no choice but to arrest these people then you truly have sunk to the same level of belligerence and stupidity that keeps Turkish troops "guarding" the abandoned town of Varosha. Now give it a rest.


But why did some get charged and other did not, is the main concern I have.


Read the article I posted Kiks. The others had diplomatic immunity and the northern authorities who are stickers to International Laws let them go free after it was established that they had immunity. Now its time for guru fasulya yahni; my favourite. :lol:
I have some on order for next month. I cant stand hospital food either. :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually it makes perfect sense, that those who had "Diplomatic Immunity" were not charged and released, including the priest, since he too have his "Diplomatic Immunity" by the order of GOD himself.

The reasoning is, that Turkey is once again demonstrating that the "trnc" is an illegal state without any diplomatic recognition and that the TCs really have zero say so on matters concerning international matters, which will upset poor deluded VP, but those are the facts. But since the north is under the occupation of Turkey and military rule is in effect, Turkey does have International treaties with other countries regarding "Diplomatic Immunity", hence the reason why the military released and not charge those who are protected under those treaties. The RoC is not recognised by Turkey, so the GC guys got thrown into the slammer, as well as one of them given bad hospital food, which he was lucky to have had some TCs share their food with him. In the end, they got charged 200TL for visiting a old church in the north. The fine will help out the financially drained north, as in one Cypriot helping another, but if truth needs to be told, that 200TL bought a lot of bad press for the north and a lot of good press for the RoC. Turkey just washed their hands off the GCs and dealt with the rest, the people that they recognised, as well as the priest. Last thing Turkey wanted again, was more bad news on mistreating a priest after the last Christmas church praying fiasco in the north.

So, there you have it. Turkey once again reinforced that the north is not independent and that they have ZERO International recognition and that the north is under Turkey's rule and that the TCs are just "Kept & Maintained" who have no political rights in the world.


The bit you highlighted was tongue in cheeck on my part. That was what they said. 'they had respect for Intl law'. :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:32 pm

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BirKibrisli wrote:My questions still remain unanswered...Who gave them this 'mission'? did they recieve permission to carry out their 'mission'??? What were they doing in the 'forbidden military zone' if not acting as provocateurs????:


Why don't you just give up? They were a delegation from a Committee of the EU Parliament on a tour of derelict Orthodox Christian churches and cemeteries in the occupied areas. They don't need "permission" to visit deserted religious monuments and cemeteries. They are everywhere in the north.

The "forbidden military zone" as you put it, is an abandoned church on the edge of a ghost town which the Turkish army insanely guard (as the CM article above aptly puts it).


If you really believe the Turkish army had no choice but to arrest these people then you truly have sunk to the same level of belligerence and stupidity that keeps Turkish troops "guarding" the abandoned town of Varosha. Now give it a rest.



Do you know how stupid you sound Birkibrisli is asking some valid questions yet you ignore them, these people broke the law and paid the price simple. What you cant accept is that you have no control over the north and we do, you have to obey our laws just as we have to obey yours if we travel south. You need a reality check the "pseudo state" you try to dismiss just slapped you right in the face...gunaydin.


he only sounds stupid to u 'cos ur an idiot.

i can see why the turkish regime have an issue with freedom of speech, when turks like u exercise it in such an excruciating way. i'd rather listen to the sound chalk makes when it squeaks against a blackboard than ur pathetic drivel. u really are the most annoying person on the planet. i know it's not a popularity contest... but ur still the biggest loser, by a f*cking country mile...


Cut the crap and answer Birkibrislis questions.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:44 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Birkibrisli is asking some valid questions yet you ignore them.


That's weird. I thought I answered all his "questions". Unfortunately you appear not to have noticed. So here you are again:

Q1. Who gave them this 'mission'?
A. They were a delegation from a Committee of the EU Parliament on a tour of derelict Orthodox Christian churches and cemeteries in the occupied areas.

OK

Q2 Did they recieve permission to carry out their 'mission'?
They don't need permission to visit deserted religious monuments and cemeteries. They are everywhere in the north.

This is where they went wrong, this specific church was out of bounds.

Q3. What were they doing in the 'forbidden military zone'?
See above. The "forbidden military zone" is an abandoned church on the edge of a ghost town which the Turkish army insanely and doggedly guard for no apparent reason (as the Cyprus Mail aptly describes it). In other words, it is a sham "law" created by lunatics, policed by lunatics and upheld by lunatics. Welcome to the "TRNC"...

Still, however much you try to play it down the facts stare you in the face they went into a forbidden military zone and got arrested by the army, you cannot do as you wish here is no longer belongs to you as these misguided idiots soon found out. You can try it as well if you wish but Id advise you to apply for permission from the TRNC authorities first you dont want to end up in the slammer.
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Postby ZoC » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:17 pm

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BirKibrisli wrote:My questions still remain unanswered...Who gave them this 'mission'? did they recieve permission to carry out their 'mission'??? What were they doing in the 'forbidden military zone' if not acting as provocateurs????:


Why don't you just give up? They were a delegation from a Committee of the EU Parliament on a tour of derelict Orthodox Christian churches and cemeteries in the occupied areas. They don't need "permission" to visit deserted religious monuments and cemeteries. They are everywhere in the north.

The "forbidden military zone" as you put it, is an abandoned church on the edge of a ghost town which the Turkish army insanely guard (as the CM article above aptly puts it).


If you really believe the Turkish army had no choice but to arrest these people then you truly have sunk to the same level of belligerence and stupidity that keeps Turkish troops "guarding" the abandoned town of Varosha. Now give it a rest.



Do you know how stupid you sound Birkibrisli is asking some valid questions yet you ignore them, these people broke the law and paid the price simple. What you cant accept is that you have no control over the north and we do, you have to obey our laws just as we have to obey yours if we travel south. You need a reality check the "pseudo state" you try to dismiss just slapped you right in the face...gunaydin.


he only sounds stupid to u 'cos ur an idiot.

i can see why the turkish regime have an issue with freedom of speech, when turks like u exercise it in such an excruciating way. i'd rather listen to the sound chalk makes when it squeaks against a blackboard than ur pathetic drivel. u really are the most annoying person on the planet. i know it's not a popularity contest... but ur still the biggest loser, by a f*cking country mile...


Cut the crap and answer Birkibrislis questions.


here's my answer to you and mr b. turk.... form an orderly queue...

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Postby Hermes » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:25 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Still, however much you try to play it down the facts stare you in the face they went into a forbidden military zone and got arrested by the army, you cannot do as you wish here is no longer belongs to you as these misguided idiots soon found out. You can try it as well if you wish but Id advise you to apply for permission from the TRNC authorities first you dont want to end up in the slammer.


My advice to the occupation regime is not to arrest and harass members of the EU Parliament when they are on a fact-finding mission. Especially when the "forbidden zone" consists of a church on the edge of a ghost town. It's best to leave them do their work. I know the occupation regime feels it necessary to try and make a point that they are in charge in the north but they just end up looking like a bunch of underemployed fascist morons.
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Postby ZoC » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:27 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Still, however much you try to play it down the facts stare you in the face they went into a forbidden military zone and got arrested by the army, you cannot do as you wish here is no longer belongs to you as these misguided idiots soon found out. You can try it as well if you wish but Id advise you to apply for permission from the TRNC authorities first you dont want to end up in the slammer.


i don't remember anyone selling it, so how come varosha no longer belongs to its original inhabitants?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:22 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Still, however much you try to play it down the facts stare you in the face they went into a forbidden military zone and got arrested by the army, you cannot do as you wish here is no longer belongs to you as these misguided idiots soon found out. You can try it as well if you wish but Id advise you to apply for permission from the TRNC authorities first you dont want to end up in the slammer.


My advice to the occupation regime is not to arrest and harass members of the EU Parliament when they are on a fact-finding mission. Especially when the "forbidden zone" consists of a church on the edge of a ghost town. It's best to leave them do their work. I know the occupation regime feels it necessary to try and make a point that they are in charge in the north but they just end up looking like a bunch of underemployed fascist morons.


Prohibited area anywhere in the world is just that, you enter it at your own peril and these morons got arrested, who do they think they are, like everyone else they should have gone through the right channels to get permission from the TRNC...your advice stinks you probably told these simpletons that its ok due to the fact that the TRNC is not real and you have nothing to worry about :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:25 pm

ZoC wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Still, however much you try to play it down the facts stare you in the face they went into a forbidden military zone and got arrested by the army, you cannot do as you wish here is no longer belongs to you as these misguided idiots soon found out. You can try it as well if you wish but Id advise you to apply for permission from the TRNC authorities first you dont want to end up in the slammer.


i don't remember anyone selling it, so how come varosha no longer belongs to its original inhabitants?


Ask the eoka terrorists.
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Postby Hermes » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:28 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Still, however much you try to play it down the facts stare you in the face they went into a forbidden military zone and got arrested by the army, you cannot do as you wish here is no longer belongs to you as these misguided idiots soon found out.


So much crap in one sentence. Did you not see the sign?

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