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[Nikitas]

And the charge in the military court will be what exactly? That they crossed themselves in a "museum"? And if the two are charged, why not the other lot who were let go? Presumably they all crossed themselves as Christians are prone to do in a church. The charge of accessing a military area is bullshit, the church is being used as a museum and has been for years.

Monkey business.

[BirKibrisli]

You silly Nellies have not answered my question....Is this church in the 'forbidden zone'' that is Varosia or not???? If I went there without a permission,would I be arrested or not???

Stop getting hysterical about this new stunt by your agitators...Whether you recognise it or not,there is an adminitration in the North of Cyprus named the trnc...It is safeguarded by the Turkish Army...It has its own laws...You disobey them and you pay the price...Now would someone sensible answer my question...Was this arrest made in the zone declared 'forbidden' by the TA or not???no need for your cheap political shots...just answer the question...

FFS are you stupid or what?

Look you four-knuckle shuffler - if it is (a) promoted as a tourist site (b) in illegal occuption by a theatre griouip, fow the f*ck can it be in the forbidden zone?

Enlighten me then,MR Know all...
If they were not in the 'forbidden zone' why would they be arrested...?Were some of them banned from the trnc or something? There must be a reason...Come on tell me if you know...I'll be eternally grateful...

[BirKibrisli]

And the charge in the military court will be what exactly? That they crossed themselves in a "museum"? And if the two are charged, why not the other lot who were let go? Presumably they all crossed themselves as Christians are prone to do in a church. The charge of accessing a military area is bullshit, the church is being used as a museum and has been for years.

Monkey business.

There is some confusion,Nikitas. The article above says they will be charged with 'entering a 1st Degree forbidden military zone'...
Someone in Cyprus is puting out misinformation to politicise the issue...As usual!

[denizaksulu]

And the charge in the military court will be what exactly? That they crossed themselves in a "museum"? And if the two are charged, why not the other lot who were let go? Presumably they all crossed themselves as Christians are prone to do in a church. The charge of accessing a military area is bullshit, the church is being used as a museum and has been for years.

Monkey business.

The above article states that they were arrested while trying to gain access to 'the grounds' of the church. The charges as stated above refer to ' 'illegally' entering a 'closed military zone'. Do not shoot the messenger. I only posted the above as there was a question as to how many of the group were in fact released.

I am sure the group had no doubt that they were going to get arrested. 'Ignorant' they were not!

[Hermes]

You silly Nellies have not answered my question....Is this church in the 'forbidden zone'' that is Varosia or not???? If I went there without a permission,would I be arrested or not???

Stop getting hysterical about this new stunt by your agitators...Whether you recognise it or not,there is an adminitration in the North of Cyprus named the trnc...It is safeguarded by the Turkish Army...It has its own laws...You disobey them and you pay the price...Now would someone sensible answer my question...Was this arrest made in the zone declared 'forbidden' by the TA or not???no need for your cheap political shots...just answer the question...

FFS are you stupid or what?

Look you four-knuckle shuffler - if it is (a) promoted as a tourist site (b) in illegal occuption by a theatre griouip, fow the f*ck can it be in the forbidden zone?

Enlighten me then,MR Know all...
If they were not in the 'forbidden zone' why would they be arrested...?Were some of them banned from the trnc or something? There must be a reason...Come on tell me if you know...I'll be eternally grateful...

The defender of the Turkish army crawls out of his hole again.

Why would the occupation authorities in the north promote the Church for tourists if it was in a "forbidden" zone? Why would it be used as some kind of cultural centre if it was in a "forbidden" zone? Why are the only people being "charged" two elderly Greek Cypriot men?

Isn't the truth that the regime clowns arrested these people on a jumped up pretext to try and make a point that they are "in charge" in the north and in the process discredited the "TRNC"? Isn't that what really upsets you?

[BirKibrisli]

You silly Nellies have not answered my question....Is this church in the 'forbidden zone'' that is Varosia or not???? If I went there without a permission,would I be arrested or not???

Stop getting hysterical about this new stunt by your agitators...Whether you recognise it or not,there is an adminitration in the North of Cyprus named the trnc...It is safeguarded by the Turkish Army...It has its own laws...You disobey them and you pay the price...Now would someone sensible answer my question...Was this arrest made in the zone declared 'forbidden' by the TA or not???no need for your cheap political shots...just answer the question...

FFS are you stupid or what?

Look you four-knuckle shuffler - if it is (a) promoted as a tourist site (b) in illegal occuption by a theatre griouip, fow the f*ck can it be in the forbidden zone?

Enlighten me then,MR Know all...
If they were not in the 'forbidden zone' why would they be arrested...?Were some of them banned from the trnc or something? There must be a reason...Come on tell me if you know...I'll be eternally grateful...

The defender of the Turkish army crawls out of his hole again.

Why would the occupation authorities in the north promote the Church for tourists if it was in a "forbidden" zone? Why would it be used as some kind of cultural centre if it was in a "forbidden" zone? Why are the only people being "charged" two elderly Greek Cypriot men?

Isn't the truth that the regime clowns arrested these people on a jumped up pretext to try and make a point that they are "in charge" in the north and in the process discredited the "TRNC"? Isn't that what really upsets you?

I am not defending anyone or anything..I just do not believe anything some people say on this forum...Because I know they lie trough their teeth...They cannot be trusted to tell me the colour of milk...got it?

Common sense dictate that there must be a reason for people to get arrested...They must've broken somebody's law somewhere..This is what I am trying to establish...The article posted by Deniz says those arrested will be charged with 'entering a 1st degree miliary forbidden zone'...There you are...You just want to play silly buggers again...Maybe they did go into the second church by that name in the military forbidden zone...Read Nikitas' post above before you get your knickers in a knot!

[Hermes]

I am not defending anyone or anything..I just do not believe anything some people say on this forum...Because I know they lie trough their teeth...They cannot be trusted to tell me the colour of milk...got it?

Common sense dictate that there must be a reason for people to get arrested...They must've broken somebody's law somewhere..This is what I am trying to establish...The article posted by Deniz says those arrested will be charged with 'entering a 1st degree miliary forbidden zone'...There you are...You just want to play silly buggers again...Maybe they did go into the second church by that name in the military forbidden zone...Read Nikitas' post above before you get your knickers in a knot!

Birk, I think it says a lot about you that you are willing to back the Turkish army's version of events. While the occupation regime has realized its mistake - that these people were visiting dilapidated churches and monuments - and has released the officials involved, you are still trying to justify the arrests.

Even the "trnc" realizes it has made a stupid blunder that left it exposed and is looking for a way out. When even the Head of the EPP issues a statement that he is "astonished" at these arrests, poor BirKTurk is the only person left who believes the Turkish army was right to intervene.

Perhaps you should apply to work for the Public Relations Department of the "TRNC"? You would be the perfect person to undermine them from within!

[Hermes]

From a statement issued by Wilfred Martens, The President of the European People's Party, the largest transnational European political party:

''I am astonished by this incident. The Turkish military forces do not have the right to arrest current and former European parliamentarians and other European citizens, who were there on a mission to examine the current state of religious monuments in the ghost-town of Famagusta.''

[BirKibrisli]

I am not defending anyone or anything..I just do not believe anything some people say on this forum...Because I know they lie trough their teeth...They cannot be trusted to tell me the colour of milk...got it?

Common sense dictate that there must be a reason for people to get arrested...They must've broken somebody's law somewhere..This is what I am trying to establish...The article posted by Deniz says those arrested will be charged with 'entering a 1st degree miliary forbidden zone'...There you are...You just want to play silly buggers again...Maybe they did go into the second church by that name in the military forbidden zone...Read Nikitas' post above before you get your knickers in a knot!

Birk, I think it says a lot about you that you are willing to back the Turkish army's version of events. While the occupation regime has realized its mistake - that these people were visiting dilapidated churches and monuments - and has released the officials involved, you are still trying to justify the arrests.

Even the "trnc" realizes it has made a stupid blunder that left it exposed and is looking for a way out. When even the Head of the EPP issues a statement that he is "astonished" at these arrests, poor BirKTurk is the only person left who believes the Turkish army was right to intervene.

Perhaps you should apply to work for the Public Relations Department of the "TRNC"? You would be the perfect person to undermine them from within!

Do not put false interpretations on my motives...I am trying to establish what exactly happened ,and where it happened...The Turkish Army does not need me to defend them...

I repeat,if people get arrested there must be a reason...It could be a simple mistake of course...I don't know,I wasnt there...And neither were you...But that doesnt stop you from piling heaps of rubbish on anyone you can think of...You are a miserable,sad excuse of a man...Remember to engage your brain before you open your mouth next time...If you have a brain.

[BirKibrisli]

From a statement issued by Wilfred Martens, The President of the European People's Party, the largest transnational European political party:

''I am astonished by this incident. The Turkish military forces do not have the right to arrest current and former European parliamentarians and other European citizens, who were there on a mission to examine the current state of religious monuments in the ghost-town of Famagusta.''

Wilfred Martens should answer these questions first:

One: Who gave these former and current EU parliamentarians the mission to examine what they were examining???

Two: Did they have the permission of the trnc authorities for such a visit???

Three: Could they be simply on a mission of Provocation encouraged by a certain madman named Matsis???