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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:01 am

Viewpoint wrote:No they are not the average TCs.


By all accounts the last protest attracted 50,000 of the Average CYs living under the Turkish Occupation, a figure which must be close to all the CYs living in the Occupied Areas.

50,000 of them ! ... So did you join the other "average" CYs , do you support these "average CYs??????
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Postby quattro » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:11 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:No they are not the average TCs.


By all accounts the last protest attracted 50,000 of the Average CYs living under the Turkish Occupation, a figure which must be close to all the CYs living in the Occupied Areas.

50,000 of them ! ... So did you join the other "average" CYs , do you support these "average CYs??????


Now you have to find a topic for "Average" also......... to explain in a way that VP can get the meaning of the word 8) 8)
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:40 pm

Hate to disappoint you guys,but VP is right,the average TC think exactly like he does...If you believe that all of the 50,000 marchers were there to tell Turkey to 'Has...tir', you are only deluding yourselves...But go ahead,there is no law against it... :wink:
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Postby Hermes » Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:02 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:Hate to disappoint you guys,but VP is right,the average TC think exactly like he does


So why wasn't he on the streets protesting along with the average T/C? If this protest was not directed against Turkish policies in the occupied area why not join the march? Why stay at home along with all the settlers?
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:04 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:Hate to disappoint you guys,but VP is right,the average TC think exactly like he does...If you believe that all of the 50,000 marchers were there to tell Turkey to 'Has...tir', you are only deluding yourselves...But go ahead,there is no law against it... :wink:


Bir, we have to be careful in giving VP too much credit (if any) in making the assumption that he/she is "representing" the average TC, or else, the average TC will be seen as a Racist Fascist NeoPartitionist. I hope for the TCs sake, that is not the case.

Secondly, VP approves of Turkey's austerity measures and believes it is a good idea for Turkey to stop the hand out, therefore, that being the case, VP couldn't be "representing" the average TCs, since 50,000 of them were on the streets fighting the austerity measures that VP approves what Turkey is doing. I'm almost certain VP was not amongst the 50,000 TCs on the street fighting against these austerity measures.

I would say that, if VP were to "present" anyone, it is the settlers/Turkey, as well as those TCs who are NeoPartitionist, who are enjoying the "spoils of war". Regardless of the above options, VP is not an elected individual, therefore, he can ONLY represents his/her own self and no one else. His/her views are just that, his/hers ONLY.!
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:13 pm

For all of you guys living abroad please notice some things:
The economic situation TODAY in Cyprus is near TRAGIC.
In the ROC controlled areas we have record highs in unemployment, businesses are closing down one after another, brand new shops-buildings-houses-apartments just stay there unsold and empty. Banks profits started declining fast.
People just don’t know what to do.Long term unemployment (more than 6 months) is already a FACT for more than 50% of those who lose their jobs.The Government is scratching her head to increase revenue, while international Financial firms have already degraded Cyprus’s financial status 2 times within 12 months.
Now if the situation in the ROC is near tragic you can imagine what goes on in the occupied.
Imo, the TCs were demonstrating for what is the obvious #1 cause of their financial drowning, (Turkey and her occupation policy). However imo there is also cause #2, and that is the how the economy in the RoC controlled area is doing. Like it or not there is a one way dependence already. Where would that lead us regarding the Cyprob I don’t know…
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:12 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:For all of you guys living abroad please notice some things:
The economic situation TODAY in Cyprus is near TRAGIC.
In the ROC controlled areas we have record highs in unemployment, businesses are closing down one after another, brand new shops-buildings-houses-apartments just stay there unsold and empty. Banks profits started declining fast.
People just don’t know what to do.Long term unemployment (more than 6 months) is already a FACT for more than 50% of those who lose their jobs.The Government is scratching her head to increase revenue, while international Financial firms have already degraded Cyprus’s financial status 2 times within 12 months.
Now if the situation in the ROC is near tragic you can imagine what goes on in the occupied.
Imo, the TCs were demonstrating for what is the obvious #1 cause of their financial drowning, (Turkey and her occupation policy). However imo there is also cause #2, and that is the how the economy in the RoC controlled area is doing. Like it or not there is a one way dependence already. Where would that lead us regarding the Cyprob I don’t know…


Nice to see you Pyro...........its been so long..... :lol:
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:16 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:For all of you guys living abroad please notice some things:
The economic situation TODAY in Cyprus is near TRAGIC.
In the ROC controlled areas we have record highs in unemployment, businesses are closing down one after another, brand new shops-buildings-houses-apartments just stay there unsold and empty. Banks profits started declining fast.
People just don’t know what to do.Long term unemployment (more than 6 months) is already a FACT for more than 50% of those who lose their jobs.The Government is scratching her head to increase revenue, while international Financial firms have already degraded Cyprus’s financial status 2 times within 12 months.
Now if the situation in the ROC is near tragic you can imagine what goes on in the occupied.
Imo, the TCs were demonstrating for what is the obvious #1 cause of their financial drowning, (Turkey and her occupation policy). However imo there is also cause #2, and that is the how the economy in the RoC controlled area is doing. Like it or not there is a one way dependence already. Where would that lead us regarding the Cyprob I don’t know…


Nice to see you Pyro...........its been so long..... :lol:


yes good to see Pyro,

..but Pyro mate, only today reading of some encouraging news re some pretty good increases in tourism to The Republic esp from Germany.

Must speak to a CY reli later about this.

The other consideration is that any settlement is gonna need an awful lot of money for reconstruction, which is gonna be diff in these hard times.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:36 pm

Hello Deniz and other friends, you know I always have you in my heart, ALL of you including VP, who as I see continues to get (and throw as well) a lot of fire :lol: :lol: :lol:

Bill my friend, tourism stopped to be the No1 factor a long time ago.In fact land and buildings sales were the No1 economic factor 3 years ago, services next and THEN tourism.. EXACTLY the same was going on in the occupied. Now ask VP to tell you how many villas and land they sold last year in the occupied. ZERO or near zero!! Not because they decided to turn back to legality by not selling stolen GC land, but because whatever happens in the RoC controlled area has a direct effect in the occupied.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:37 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:For all of you guys living abroad please notice some things:
The economic situation TODAY in Cyprus is near TRAGIC.
In the ROC controlled areas we have record highs in unemployment, businesses are closing down one after another, brand new shops-buildings-houses-apartments just stay there unsold and empty. Banks profits started declining fast.
People just don’t know what to do.Long term unemployment (more than 6 months) is already a FACT for more than 50% of those who lose their jobs.The Government is scratching her head to increase revenue, while international Financial firms have already degraded Cyprus’s financial status 2 times within 12 months.
Now if the situation in the ROC is near tragic you can imagine what goes on in the occupied.
Imo, the TCs were demonstrating for what is the obvious #1 cause of their financial drowning, (Turkey and her occupation policy). However imo there is also cause #2, and that is the how the economy in the RoC controlled area is doing. Like it or not there is a one way dependence already. Where would that lead us regarding the Cyprob I don’t know…

It’s all the doom and gloom merchants (the political opposition) preparing the ground to win seats in parliament in the coming election, but in reality it’s not that bad…

IMF sees Cyprus' economy growing 1.5-2 pct in 2011
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financia ... D7AT00.htm

Cyprus, Israel leaders discuss LNG shipping deal
http://www.financialmirror.com/News/Cyp ... News/22884

Cyprus credit card spending rises 16% on road tax renewals
http://www.financialmirror.com/News/Cyp ... News/22855

Cyprus trade deficit stable in January (prelim)
http://www.financialmirror.com/News/Cyp ... News/22887

Optimistic prospects on tourism from Russia to Cyprus
http://www.financialmirror.com/News/Bus ... ance/22872

Cyprus tourism leaps 12.7% in February
http://www.financialmirror.com/News/Cyp ... News/22886
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