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Eroglu Outside The UN Parameters (again) On Citizenship

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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:08 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The TA leaving?

Lies!


Viewpoint wrote:Return of settlers;

Lies!


Viewpoint wrote:Return of Maraş?

Not Enough!


Were these issue in the AP?

What about these issues were against the "EU Principles" you peddle?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:10 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Why not have your cake and eat it to? if you are allowed to do, thanks to the stupid GCs. Theres nothing more the GCs would like to do than take away our citizenship but the price would just be to heavy so as long as they claim to represent us they are forced to hand the benefits.


So you admit that the TCs are EU citizens, whether they had asked for it or not, with or without their say so.


Not 100% as they do not have to abide by what the EU tells them, they can tell them to fuck tomorrow with no ramifications as we do not have to adhere to what they try to impose on us due to the no control of the "RoC" which is in the EU and their power is only over 63% of the island.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:14 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Similar derogation was made in the AP which was rejected by the GCs, you twist turn and make things up as you along to support your sell our plan, we will not buy it, its belongs in a place in your body where the sun dont shine.


They are not similar what so ever. The AP was a partition plan as well as violating all the EU principles, but just on the GCs.

How you asked the EU to accept the AP of 2004 yet for today's settlement talks, and if so, what have they told you.?


Why did the EU approve the AP?

Were their representatives at all the meetings on each subject/sector involved?

The grandfathered issue was actually directly or indirectly in the plan, that did not allow the GC population increase faster than the TC population until and when the two economies leveled out.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:15 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Now they know better, the GC thorn will continue to drain their patience thus increasing the number of people in the EU that regret ever taking on a divided island with all its troublesome baggage.


Only in your imagination. I know it makes you sleep better at night in believing what you write, but it isn't so. You screwed up big time in 2004 with all your outrageous demands. It's time you have come to terms with the reality. Next time try to be more realistic with your demands. Cyprus now has Gas & Oil. You think the EU wants to turn these to Turkey by kicking Cyprus out.? Not on your life.


There will not be a next time...this is it forever, time you accepted this fact.
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Postby quattro » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:19 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Now they know better, the GC thorn will continue to drain their patience thus increasing the number of people in the EU that regret ever taking on a divided island with all its troublesome baggage.


Only in your imagination. I know it makes you sleep better at night in believing what you write, but it isn't so. You screwed up big time in 2004 with all your outrageous demands. It's time you have come to terms with the reality. Next time try to be more realistic with your demands. Cyprus now has Gas & Oil. You think the EU wants to turn these to Turkey by kicking Cyprus out.? Not on your life.


There will not be a next time...this is it forever, time you accepted this fact.


You are so fucked up VP and you dont even know it .
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Postby DT. » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:20 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Now they know better, the GC thorn will continue to drain their patience thus increasing the number of people in the EU that regret ever taking on a divided island with all its troublesome baggage.


Only in your imagination. I know it makes you sleep better at night in believing what you write, but it isn't so. You screwed up big time in 2004 with all your outrageous demands. It's time you have come to terms with the reality. Next time try to be more realistic with your demands. Cyprus now has Gas & Oil. You think the EU wants to turn these to Turkey by kicking Cyprus out.? Not on your life.


There will not be a next time...this is it forever, time you accepted this fact.


It's not up to you, we'll let you know when time is up. Sovereign land is still under occupation, this will end when we stop making an issue out of this.

EU presidency coming up next year and we might be a little busy setting the agenda for the EUs priorities during that period, so best be on your best behaviour. I expect Erdogan to stand to attention at larnaca airport.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:21 pm

quattro wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Now they know better, the GC thorn will continue to drain their patience thus increasing the number of people in the EU that regret ever taking on a divided island with all its troublesome baggage.


Only in your imagination. I know it makes you sleep better at night in believing what you write, but it isn't so. You screwed up big time in 2004 with all your outrageous demands. It's time you have come to terms with the reality. Next time try to be more realistic with your demands. Cyprus now has Gas & Oil. You think the EU wants to turn these to Turkey by kicking Cyprus out.? Not on your life.


There will not be a next time...this is it forever, time you accepted this fact.


You are so fucked up VP and you dont even know it .


Please dont generalize and provide details otherwise fuck off.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:22 pm

DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Now they know better, the GC thorn will continue to drain their patience thus increasing the number of people in the EU that regret ever taking on a divided island with all its troublesome baggage.


Only in your imagination. I know it makes you sleep better at night in believing what you write, but it isn't so. You screwed up big time in 2004 with all your outrageous demands. It's time you have come to terms with the reality. Next time try to be more realistic with your demands. Cyprus now has Gas & Oil. You think the EU wants to turn these to Turkey by kicking Cyprus out.? Not on your life.


There will not be a next time...this is it forever, time you accepted this fact.


It's not up to you, we'll let you know when time is up. Sovereign land is still under occupation, this will end when we stop making an issue out of this.

EU presidency coming up next year and we might be a little busy setting the agenda for the EUs priorities during that period, so best be on your best behaviour. I expect Erdogan to stand to attention at larnaca airport.


Please please do you worst, it still wont amount to jack shit, nothing will change.
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Postby ZoC » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:36 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
quattro wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Now they know better, the GC thorn will continue to drain their patience thus increasing the number of people in the EU that regret ever taking on a divided island with all its troublesome baggage.


Only in your imagination. I know it makes you sleep better at night in believing what you write, but it isn't so. You screwed up big time in 2004 with all your outrageous demands. It's time you have come to terms with the reality. Next time try to be more realistic with your demands. Cyprus now has Gas & Oil. You think the EU wants to turn these to Turkey by kicking Cyprus out.? Not on your life.


There will not be a next time...this is it forever, time you accepted this fact.


You are so fucked up VP and you dont even know it .


Please dont generalize and provide details otherwise fuck off.


here are some details highlighted in yellow... every ignorant, evil, hate-filled post... (also the tiny penis above)...

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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:34 am

I am going to tell you why there will not be a solution to the Cyprus problem in our lifetime...In 1963 Makarios made a stupid move to force the GC will down the TC throats...The TCs refused to swollow the snake oil,hence a bitter struggle began...This has continued more or less unchanged since 63...It is now the GC and Greek world's will against the TC and Turkish world's will...The first one who blinks know that all will be lost,the past 50 years pain and suffering would be for nothing...
Hence no one is going to budge...

The mistake the GC side is making is to believe that their cause can be advanced by pure political and international judiciary moves,tricks, arguments...Hence they have not bothered to work on the human aspects of the equation,the empathy,compassion,understanding,respect,trust...As the 'official' guardians of the RoC state power it is their responsibility and duty to address the human issues...

Most forumers here are making the same mistake...They are totally ignoring the essential ingredients if we are going to create a melting pot of two warring communties and nations...While bitterness,mistrust ,and suspicion continues unabated there will be no solution. Some people here and elsewhere seem to have missed that point...
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