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Eroglu Outside The UN Parameters (again) On Citizenship

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Postby kurupetos » Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:05 am

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bill cobbett wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:To reiterate what Christofias said on more than one occasion, both in official as well as unofficial forums (fora), and at the risk of sounding like his PR man, the GC side was guilty of violence against the TCs, it failed to treat them fairly, it practiced racism and lots more.

The TCs might have been pawns before 1974, after August 1974 they were "liberated" and they participatted in the high level talks where they agreed to a BBF. They could have insisted that from that point on that no action should be taken in the north that would jeopardise any BBF outcome, ie no "nationalisations", no forcible expulsion of the GCs of Karpasia. If these were a Turkish policy the TCs could and should have distanced themselves visibly from it. They did not and now Eroglu comes to the talks presenting an even harder line than Turkey.

Even traditionally pro TC media like the UK Guardian have stressed the unfairness of the territorial proposal of 37 per cent for 18 per cent of the population, but Eorglu is not listening, he is faithfully following his master's voice.

As for Enosis being the nemesis of the TCs, well they managed, thanks to the resistance and sacrifice of the GCs, to avoid it with Greece, but they sure as hell succeded in getting it with Turkey.



Sadly you are right Nikitas.


... and even more sadly... i agree with Deniz.... :cry:


Then you also agree with YFred. :wink:


It must be a chemical reaction because i agree too :shock: :shock:


Be careful! It's highly exothermic. :oops:
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Postby humanist » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:22 pm

well they have not succeeded with Turkey yet. The resident of the republic needs to escalate negotiations with the UN partircurlarly Moon to indicate the hypocricy in TC community. crying No to a Greece/ Cyprus Enosis to a Turkihs TC EWnosis with Turjey.

I thik Eriglu has shwn many ties now hs partitionist stace and it is time Moon reminded him that his aiding occupation and violation of human righs. Moon's refusal to address this matter means he is there for power and ego and not real peace.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:12 pm

humanist wrote:well they have not succeeded with Turkey yet. The resident of the republic needs to escalate negotiations with the UN partircurlarly Moon to indicate the hypocricy in TC community. crying No to a Greece/ Cyprus Enosis to a Turkihs TC EWnosis with Turjey.

I thik Eriglu has shwn many ties now hs partitionist stace and it is time Moon reminded him that his aiding occupation and violation of human righs. Moon's refusal to address this matter means he is there for power and ego and not real peace.


I agree your leader should being doing much more than he does to win over the TCs, all we see is the negativity and maximum demands threat. This only goes to reinforce what Turkey is saying that the GCs are not genuine in firstly wanting a solution and therefore have no intention of compromising to find middle ground.
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Postby quattro » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:22 pm

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humanist wrote:well they have not succeeded with Turkey yet. The resident of the republic needs to escalate negotiations with the UN partircurlarly Moon to indicate the hypocricy in TC community. crying No to a Greece/ Cyprus Enosis to a Turkihs TC EWnosis with Turjey.

I thik Eriglu has shwn many ties now hs partitionist stace and it is time Moon reminded him that his aiding occupation and violation of human righs. Moon's refusal to address this matter means he is there for power and ego and not real peace.


I agree your leader should being doing much more than he does to win over the TCs, all we see is the negativity and maximum demands threat. This only goes to reinforce what Turkey is saying that the GCs are not genuine in firstly wanting a solution and therefore have no intention of compromising to find middle ground.


What your narrow mind cannot understand VP is that we the cypriots want a solution for CYPRUS .You on the other hand want a solution for you and the benefits and ambitions of Turkey that suits you .
IMHO your are 99.99% TURK .
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:53 pm

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humanist wrote:well they have not succeeded with Turkey yet. The resident of the republic needs to escalate negotiations with the UN partircurlarly Moon to indicate the hypocricy in TC community. crying No to a Greece/ Cyprus Enosis to a Turkihs TC EWnosis with Turjey.

I thik Eriglu has shwn many ties now hs partitionist stace and it is time Moon reminded him that his aiding occupation and violation of human righs. Moon's refusal to address this matter means he is there for power and ego and not real peace.


I agree your leader should being doing much more than he does to win over the TCs, all we see is the negativity and maximum demands threat. This only goes to reinforce what Turkey is saying that the GCs are not genuine in firstly wanting a solution and therefore have no intention of compromising to find middle ground.


What your narrow mind cannot understand VP is that we the cypriots want a solution for CYPRUS .You on the other hand want a solution for you and the benefits and ambitions of Turkey that suits you .
IMHO your are 99.99% TURK .


Your blindness doesnt allow you to see that we are part of "Cyprus" therefore surely your leader should be taking us into account and not just what the Gcs demand.
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Postby quattro » Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:03 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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humanist wrote:well they have not succeeded with Turkey yet. The resident of the republic needs to escalate negotiations with the UN partircurlarly Moon to indicate the hypocricy in TC community. crying No to a Greece/ Cyprus Enosis to a Turkihs TC EWnosis with Turjey.

I thik Eriglu has shwn many ties now hs partitionist stace and it is time Moon reminded him that his aiding occupation and violation of human righs. Moon's refusal to address this matter means he is there for power and ego and not real peace.


I agree your leader should being doing much more than he does to win over the TCs, all we see is the negativity and maximum demands threat. This only goes to reinforce what Turkey is saying that the GCs are not genuine in firstly wanting a solution and therefore have no intention of compromising to find middle ground.


What your narrow mind cannot understand VP is that we the cypriots want a solution for CYPRUS .You on the other hand want a solution for you and the benefits and ambitions of Turkey that suits you .
IMHO your are 99.99% TURK .


Your blindness doesnt allow you to see that we are part of "Cyprus" therefore surely your leader should be taking us into account and not just what the Gcs demand.


if you want to consider YOU as a CYPRIOT start acting like one . because for the moment you are the mouthpiece of Turkey and Eroglou.

For me anyone who want to split Cyprus one way or the other is NOT A CYPRIOT..
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:12 pm

quattro wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
quattro wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:well they have not succeeded with Turkey yet. The resident of the republic needs to escalate negotiations with the UN partircurlarly Moon to indicate the hypocricy in TC community. crying No to a Greece/ Cyprus Enosis to a Turkihs TC EWnosis with Turjey.

I thik Eriglu has shwn many ties now hs partitionist stace and it is time Moon reminded him that his aiding occupation and violation of human righs. Moon's refusal to address this matter means he is there for power and ego and not real peace.


I agree your leader should being doing much more than he does to win over the TCs, all we see is the negativity and maximum demands threat. This only goes to reinforce what Turkey is saying that the GCs are not genuine in firstly wanting a solution and therefore have no intention of compromising to find middle ground.


What your narrow mind cannot understand VP is that we the cypriots want a solution for CYPRUS .You on the other hand want a solution for you and the benefits and ambitions of Turkey that suits you .
IMHO your are 99.99% TURK .


Your blindness doesnt allow you to see that we are part of "Cyprus" therefore surely your leader should be taking us into account and not just what the Gcs demand.


if you want to consider YOU as a CYPRIOT start acting like one . because for the moment you are the mouthpiece of Turkey and Eroglou.

For me anyone who want to split Cyprus one way or the other is NOT A CYPRIOT..


Hear hear and here here!!
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:39 am

quattro wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
quattro wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:well they have not succeeded with Turkey yet. The resident of the republic needs to escalate negotiations with the UN partircurlarly Moon to indicate the hypocricy in TC community. crying No to a Greece/ Cyprus Enosis to a Turkihs TC EWnosis with Turjey.

I thik Eriglu has shwn many ties now hs partitionist stace and it is time Moon reminded him that his aiding occupation and violation of human righs. Moon's refusal to address this matter means he is there for power and ego and not real peace.


I agree your leader should being doing much more than he does to win over the TCs, all we see is the negativity and maximum demands threat. This only goes to reinforce what Turkey is saying that the GCs are not genuine in firstly wanting a solution and therefore have no intention of compromising to find middle ground.


What your narrow mind cannot understand VP is that we the cypriots want a solution for CYPRUS .You on the other hand want a solution for you and the benefits and ambitions of Turkey that suits you .
IMHO your are 99.99% TURK .


Your blindness doesnt allow you to see that we are part of "Cyprus" therefore surely your leader should be taking us into account and not just what the Gcs demand.


if you want to consider YOU as a CYPRIOT start acting like one . because for the moment you are the mouthpiece of Turkey and Eroglou.

For me anyone who want to split Cyprus one way or the other is NOT A CYPRIOT..


You are the cause of the desire for living separately, so in fact you need to change and start seeing TCs as people who deserve to be taken into account by your leader and not pursue only the demands of GCs but start to address TCs concerns and include their demands.
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Postby DT. » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:07 am

Viewpoint wrote:
quattro wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
quattro wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:well they have not succeeded with Turkey yet. The resident of the republic needs to escalate negotiations with the UN partircurlarly Moon to indicate the hypocricy in TC community. crying No to a Greece/ Cyprus Enosis to a Turkihs TC EWnosis with Turjey.

I thik Eriglu has shwn many ties now hs partitionist stace and it is time Moon reminded him that his aiding occupation and violation of human righs. Moon's refusal to address this matter means he is there for power and ego and not real peace.


I agree your leader should being doing much more than he does to win over the TCs, all we see is the negativity and maximum demands threat. This only goes to reinforce what Turkey is saying that the GCs are not genuine in firstly wanting a solution and therefore have no intention of compromising to find middle ground.


What your narrow mind cannot understand VP is that we the cypriots want a solution for CYPRUS .You on the other hand want a solution for you and the benefits and ambitions of Turkey that suits you .
IMHO your are 99.99% TURK .


Your blindness doesnt allow you to see that we are part of "Cyprus" therefore surely your leader should be taking us into account and not just what the Gcs demand.


if you want to consider YOU as a CYPRIOT start acting like one . because for the moment you are the mouthpiece of Turkey and Eroglou.

For me anyone who want to split Cyprus one way or the other is NOT A CYPRIOT..


You are the cause of the desire for living separately, so in fact you need to change and start seeing TCs as people who deserve to be taken into account by your leader and not pursue only the demands of GCs but start to address TCs concerns and include their demands.


So its not enough to have eroglu and Turkey negotiating for the turkish cypriots, you now feel that the GC's are not prmoting your cause enough.

The Cypriot President has religiously promoted measures that benefit the small tc community of this island to the detriment of the rest. (rotating presidency for example).

People seem to forget that had the annan plan passed, the TC community would have been responsible for handing over Cyprus's EEZ wealth to Turkey. Why and how would this "tc position" have benefited Cyprus?
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Postby humanist » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:27 am

The President of the republic has made commitments and recommendations on the return of Varoshia for a joint rebuilding venture. Eroglu is still thinking about it. Reality is the TC community of 15% of the population are in self exile because they want Enosis with Turkey because Eroglu is a Turk as he pledged like the rest of them and he would like the Turks of Turkey to accept him as a full fledged Turk who still hopes of giving 1/3 of Island to Turkey and loose all TC power in government and control of any destiny.
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