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[antifon]

Hate to disappoint you guys,but VP is right,the average TC think exactly like he does...If you believe that all of the 50,000 marchers were there to tell Turkey to 'Has...tir', you are only deluding yourselves...But go ahead,there is no law against it...

Bir, we have to be careful in giving VP too much credit (if any) in making the assumption that he/she is "representing" the average TC, or else, the average TC will be seen as a Racist Fascist NeoPartitionist. I hope for the TCs sake, that is not the case.

Secondly, VP approves of Turkey's austerity measures and believes it is a good idea for Turkey to stop the hand out, therefore, that being the case, VP couldn't be "representing" the average TCs, since 50,000 of them were on the streets fighting the austerity measures that VP approves what Turkey is doing. I'm almost certain VP was not amongst the 50,000 TCs on the street fighting against these austerity measures.

I would say that, if VP were to "present" anyone, it is the settlers/Turkey, as well as those TCs who are NeoPartitionist, who are enjoying the "spoils of war". Regardless of the above options, VP is not an elected individual, therefore, he can ONLY represents his/her own self and no one else. His/her views are just that, his/hers ONLY.!

Kikapu...I didnt'say VP 'represents' the average TC...I said the average TC thinks exactly like he does...There is a difference.And I dispute your assertion that VP is a Racist Fascist Neopartitionist...Just because he doesnt have the same faith in democracy with a GC majority as you do,doesnt make him racist or fascist of partitionist...If you want to see racist and fascists and if you want to see who are the real partitionists on this forum, you will need to look amongst the GC forumers,and read their persistent comments about Turks and TCs....The Partitionists are those who knowing that their maximalist demands will never be accepted insist on them anyway...Hence they preserve the status quo,and hence bring an official partition closer every passing year...

Birkturk, give it a rest. Just who is holding whom hostage here??? Who has illegally taken by brute force 37% of the Island? Who has committed war crimes with the importation of illegal settlers, Who has changed the names of villages, dececrated holy places, stole and sold on the black market artefacts of our culture, who sells off GC land to the cheapskates and shit load more.

You need to get a fucking grip, because from where I'm standing I am the F victim here not you, dickhead.

You are also as guilty as sin, you support the illegalities and then you have the audacity to preach to us about wanting to partition our Island.
Assirktir malaka, it is little racist pricks like you who prevent and solution with your "we want our state and 50% power share" BS.

I think you get the picture.

You see what I mean,Kikapu????
You want a Unitary state with full democracy with a majority compromising of sensitive new age guys like B25???

I fail to see what choice you have BirKibrisli. Like us or get the hell out. Where do you feel more comfy? Ankara? London?

A political tsunami is about to hit your status quo.
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[Viewpoint]

When?

[antifon]

When?

I predict soon. Most others say sooner.

[Viewpoint]

When?

I predict soon. Most others say sooner.

Now I really know you havent got a clue.

[antifon]

When?

I predict soon. Most others say sooner.

Now I really know you havent got a clue.

Can you tell me what I have to gain if I share?



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[DTA]

You may be taken a little more serious than you are at present, if you state your argument that bares some resemblance to logic and knowledge rather than the rantings of a petulant Child

[Hermes]

Most TCs are prepared to accept a BBF prepared and presented by the UN...Most GCs are not...There lies the difference...

Prepared and presented by the British on behalf of Turkey you mean. Get it right.

[Viewpoint]

Well said DTA.

[Nikitas]

Despite the forum insults and vehemence when you see the situation on the ground and compare what went on and is going on north and south of the green line, the terms racism, nationalism, ethnic cleansing, apartheid, seem to apply more to the north than the south. The "nationalisation" of property, the importation of colonists, the granting of "nationality", the exclusion of ALL GCs, the reduction of the inhabitants of Karpasia, the treatment of cultural heritage, and the list goes on, does not flatter the north.

And from my point of view it would be OK, no one is under a duty to like me or my compatriots. But when the behavior is accompanied by comments like "we are the true Europeans" (Talat), or "since the properties on both sides have come under similar institutional management" (Eroglu), comments which reveal immense cynicism and a racist patronising attitude towards everyone, then that is where I draw the line.

Christofias had the balls to say "we were wrong in the 60s", what will it take for anyone on the other side to say "we made mistakes in the 70s"? Mehmet Ali Birand, an establishment figure in Turkey, has publicly stated that Attila II was a mistake. Are these guys in the north intellectually bigger or more patriotic than Birand?

[BirKibrisli]

Hate to disappoint you guys,but VP is right,the average TC think exactly like he does...If you believe that all of the 50,000 marchers were there to tell Turkey to 'Has...tir', you are only deluding yourselves...But go ahead,there is no law against it...

Bir, we have to be careful in giving VP too much credit (if any) in making the assumption that he/she is "representing" the average TC, or else, the average TC will be seen as a Racist Fascist NeoPartitionist. I hope for the TCs sake, that is not the case.

Secondly, VP approves of Turkey's austerity measures and believes it is a good idea for Turkey to stop the hand out, therefore, that being the case, VP couldn't be "representing" the average TCs, since 50,000 of them were on the streets fighting the austerity measures that VP approves what Turkey is doing. I'm almost certain VP was not amongst the 50,000 TCs on the street fighting against these austerity measures.

I would say that, if VP were to "present" anyone, it is the settlers/Turkey, as well as those TCs who are NeoPartitionist, who are enjoying the "spoils of war". Regardless of the above options, VP is not an elected individual, therefore, he can ONLY represents his/her own self and no one else. His/her views are just that, his/hers ONLY.!

Kikapu...I didnt'say VP 'represents' the average TC...I said the average TC thinks exactly like he does...There is a difference.And I dispute your assertion that VP is a Racist Fascist Neopartitionist...Just because he doesnt have the same faith in democracy with a GC majority as you do,doesnt make him racist or fascist of partitionist...If you want to see racist and fascists and if you want to see who are the real partitionists on this forum, you will need to look amongst the GC forumers,and read their persistent comments about Turks and TCs....The Partitionists are those who knowing that their maximalist demands will never be accepted insist on them anyway...Hence they preserve the status quo,and hence bring an official partition closer every passing year...

Birkturk, give it a rest. Just who is holding whom hostage here??? Who has illegally taken by brute force 37% of the Island? Who has committed war crimes with the importation of illegal settlers, Who has changed the names of villages, dececrated holy places, stole and sold on the black market artefacts of our culture, who sells off GC land to the cheapskates and shit load more.

You need to get a fucking grip, because from where I'm standing I am the F victim here not you, dickhead.

You are also as guilty as sin, you support the illegalities and then you have the audacity to preach to us about wanting to partition our Island.
Assirktir malaka, it is little racist pricks like you who prevent and solution with your "we want our state and 50% power share" BS.

I think you get the picture.

You see what I mean,Kikapu????
You want a Unitary state with full democracy with a majority compromising of sensitive new age guys like B25???

I fail to see what choice you have BirKibrisli. Like us or get the hell out. Where do you feel more comfy? Ankara? London?

A political tsunami is about to hit your status quo.
.

Can hardly contain my excitement...