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Then the Kurds should ask for it, do they have international agreements?

Do you have any?
Dont tell me the 60s ....................you throw that in the bin.

[antifon]

Then the Kurds should ask for it, do they have international agreements?

Will you support them if they do? I will get you in touch with the movement that is pushing for a Cyprus 1963/1960 [ http://antifon.blogspot.com/2010/12/pre ... osals.html ] based solution for the 25% Kurdish community of Turkey. But only if you state your explicit support and give me your email.

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[Viewpoint]

Then the Kurds should ask for it, do they have international agreements?

Do you have any?
Dont tell me the 60s ....................you throw that in the bin.

You threw them away by trying to change them.

[antifon]

A bit of history from the minority partner's point of view Viewpoint:

With the considerable support of Kurds, Mustafa Kemal won his wars and declared his republic to the world in 1923. At a time of fervent discussions on the rights of nations to the states of their own, he was careful not to alienate the Kurds or the Europeans for the recognition and acceptance of his fledgling state that included half of Kurdistan. To the international conference that was convened in Lausanne tasked with legitimizing or rejecting his gains, he sent his Kurdish emissary, Ismet Inonu, a turncoat, to allay the apprehensions of the European interlocutors who still harbored thoughts about the creation of an independent Kurdish state under the auspices of the League of Nations.

Perhaps no case better captures the events of those days than a series of incidents that unfolded on the hapless Kurdish parliamentarian, Hasan Hayri, around this time in Ankara, Turkey. Here was a Kurd who had supported the Turkish leader in the emerging state by throwing in his own considerable weight behind the new experiment called the Turkish Republic, the expressed home of two peoples in those early years. He had complete faith in the Turkish leader and believed that the salvation of the Kurds was with the Turks.

Ataturk, whose name means father of Turks in Turkish — a man who thought highly of himself and accepted the title without a blush and insisted that the children of Kurds call him their father too ó one day asked Hasan Hayri to wear his traditional Kurdish attire to the Assembly and address its members on the topic of unity between the Kurds and the Turks. He did. The event was noted by the foreign dignitaries who were intently following the pronouncements of the Kurdish leaders for signs of comity between the two peoples of the new republic. A few days later, Ataturk asked him to send a telegraph to Lord Curzon, the chief European negotiator in Lausanne, to express his support for the position of the Kurdish emissary, Ismet Inonu, who was insisting that the Kurds did not want a country and were rather happy to be with the Turks in newly declared republic. That too was done.

But after the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne and the acceptance of Turkey into the community of nations, Ataturk’s cronies arrested Hasan Hayri and accused him of treason. He was charged with engaging in blatant Kurdish nationalism for wearing Kurdish clothes. He protested by saying that Ataturk had asked him to wear them. His objections were of no avail. Hasan Hayri was condemned to death by hanging. As is customary in places where this act is still in practice, he was asked to state his last wishes. Hasan Hayri had finally learned the lesson of his life. But it was too late. He told the Turkish scribbler to write, “I want my grave to be in a place where the Kurds can walk by and spit on me because of my betrayal of them.”

http://www.kurdistan.org/work/speeches/ ... f-liberty/

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Then the Kurds should ask for it, do they have international agreements?

Do you have any?
Dont tell me the 60s ....................you throw that in the bin.

You threw them away by trying to change them.

so you dont have another .......... now put your heat in the bin and start searching you might find it

[kurupetos]

Then the Kurds should ask for it, do they have international agreements?

Do you have any?
Dont tell me the 60s ....................you throw that in the bin.

You threw them away by trying to change them.

so you dont have another .......... now put your heat in the bin and start searching you might find it

Oh....that's scary!

[wyoming cowboy]

I'd personally welcome them and say "what the hell took you so long to come to your senses?"

Whenever I meet a tCypriot I feel closer in my thinking to her/him, with the political problem always being the lone exception in most cases. They tell me the same, and we always agree that Cypriot thinking is different than Greek/Turkish thinking on most matters. Perhaps we have the British to thank for that.

As I come from the gCypriot right, I feel justified in estimating that over 65% of gCypriots, at minimum, would respond positively, with the remaining simply being apprehensive and wanting to see more concrete steps from tCypriots before accepting the sincerity on the part of tCypriots.

Vp thats all the solution will look like, tc a minority in a federal republic with most if not all settlers leaving back to turkey.....anything less there is no agreement its a huge compromise from the gc side.....take it or your existence will cease to exist on cyprus

So you are fine with TCs capitulating to our demands allowing GC dominance and forcing TCs into minority status in a GC state.

[Viewpoint]

Then the Kurds should ask for it, do they have international agreements?

Will you support them if they do? I will get you in touch with the movement that is pushing for a Cyprus 1963/1960 [ http://antifon.blogspot.com/2010/12/pre ... osals.html ] based solution for the 25% Kurdish community of Turkey. But only if you state your explicit support and give me your email.

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Will they support me?

[antifon]

Then the Kurds should ask for it, do they have international agreements?

Will you support them if they do? I will get you in touch with the movement that is pushing for a Cyprus 1963/1960 [ http://antifon.blogspot.com/2010/12/pre ... osals.html ] based solution for the 25% Kurdish community of Turkey. But only if you state your explicit support and give me your email.

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Will they support me?

Of course they will. That's the beauty of it. Two majorities and two ethnic minorities circa 20% get together to determine the right balance of power sharing. Beautiful, not?

gCypriots will side with Turks on most issues, as they both feel and act MAJORITY!
tCypriots will side with Kurds on most issues, as they both feel and act MINORITY!

Funny that Turkish speakers are representatives of both minority and majority community interests!

Even funnier that Turkey will be called upon to consider the effects of her Cyprus thinking at home!!

More here >> http://antifon.blogspot.com
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[Viewpoint]

Then the Kurds should ask for it, do they have international agreements?

Will you support them if they do? I will get you in touch with the movement that is pushing for a Cyprus 1963/1960 [ http://antifon.blogspot.com/2010/12/pre ... osals.html ] based solution for the 25% Kurdish community of Turkey. But only if you state your explicit support and give me your email.

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Will they support me?

Of course they will. That's the beauty of it. Two majorities and two ethnic minorities circa 20% get together to determine the right balance of power sharing. Beautiful, not?

gCypriots will side with Turks on most issues, as they both feel and act MAJORITY!
tCypriots will side with Kurds on most issues, as they both feel and act MINORITY!

Funny that Turkish speakers are representatives of both minority and majority community interests!

Even funnier that Turkey will be called upon to consider the effects of her Cyprus thinking at home!!

More here >> http://antifon.blogspot.com
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So they will support the TRNC recognition if we support them? because thats what they want their own state, will you support them as well?