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[Mapko]

DTA...It doesn't matter if it was a joke or not - it could be viewed as inciteful. If I'd posted 'The best way to solve the Cyprus problem is to exterminate all Turks like they were cockroaches', then said it was only a joke - would that be ok? You state you want peace and that Greek Cypriots are only out for what they can get and yet you spout hatred and think it's better to call people names. Instead of trying to belittle people (though how a Turk can do that to anyone is beyond me), why not try and speak with some civility (agan, Turks!).

You are correct, I have never been to the illegally occupied North and never will as long as it is policed by an illegally occupying force not wanted by the majority of its inhabitants. What I do know, however, is my grand-dads farm is a waste (much like the rest of the North), there was a beautiful old olive tree which has been removed and an old well which has been filled-in.

Growing up, my dad never mentioned anything about island Turks, other than the ones he knew in his village and the ones that worked on the farm. Everything I know of Turks - island and mainland - I have found out since. You state Greek Cypriots are out for themselves, but aren't Turks out for the same thing? Isn't everyone? From what I have read and seen, Turks have done nothing to disprove what I know.

[DTA]

Invading Crete with my gc brother (even if i was serious) can be compared to exterminating Turks? Is that how you think?

You talk about intelligent debate???? You are having a fucking laugh you say that tcs are Turks and the you go on to say that you despise Turks - claiming that you are not racist- but you have not meet a Turk - dude that is the definition of racism- and you want me to have an intelligent debate with you how can when you do not demonstrate intelligence?

[Mapko]

DTA...Oh, so now it's all 'My GC brother' and all that rubbish, but you hate Greek Cypriots because they're all racists who want Enosis. You talk about me being a hypocrite - at least I come on here and say how I feel, not go from one post to another spouting different stories to everyone on how I can get out of a predicament! At least be truthful and stick to one story!!

It's bizarre how you can take things out of context to manipulate your views. To invade another country, there must be a certain amount of exterminating (1974 being a prime example - how else would one side retaliate against another that is throwing rocks and firing a WWII pistol other than to drop Napalm bombs!), so the two 'jokes' are comparable.

I never mentioned an intelligent deabte because one can't be done with people like you. In your mind, there is only one view and that's yours! That's all I've read and heard - that island Turks are Turks and nothing else. You wanted mainland Turks to help you, you are goverened by mainland Turks, you speak Turk, you are all Muslims, therefore you are Turks! I don't see why that is me being racist. I stated I despised what they have done and what they stand for - those are the reasons I despise them. Are Jews racist ecause they hate all Nazis? Everyone has a hatred and everyone is racist, even if they won't admit it. I hate because of what they have done - not for no reason. A white who hates a black for the sole reason of the man's colour is the definition of a racist.

Oh and there's no need to descend to the depths of the gutter by swearing - that's the barbarian (and intelligence) in you coming out!!

[BirKibrisli]

gCypriots had every right to do chart Cyprus course. What was valid in the 50s is also valid today. They are the overwhelming majority of Cyprus.

Who the hell are you to object?

Anyway, all this won't matter soon. 65.000 souls will easily be integrated into RoC. They will of course have the right to go live in Ankara. Ideal for most of them as they feel Turks first.

http://antifon.blogspot.com

Proof that the ENOSIS mentality is still alive and well...This crush trough OR crush mentality brought untold pain and suffering to all Cypriots...You are obviously not cured of this cursed affliction...You cannot be trusted today,no more than you were yesterday...Thank you for confirming it antifon...

BirKibrisli, if that is what you understood then you are an idiot indeed!

Having said that and to make the point of Cypriots deciding democratically, then if the majority of Cypriots (not the illegal Turkeyish imports, but including all 63.500 remaining tCypriots) decided today they wanted union with Greece or Zimbabwe then so it will be.

WE WILL NEVER AGAIN ALLOW YOU, UNGRATEFUL AND HYPOCRITICAL AS YOU ARE, TO HAVE A DEFINING SAY FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY.

http://antifon.blogspot.com
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Yep we know,antifon...You didnt want us to have a say in 1950s,and you don't want us to have a say now..Nothing has changed,some of you here are the living proof...That is why we have no choice but to return to our roots,and have our own country in which to have a say in our own destiny...

Because Turkey thinks she has strategic interests in Cyprus she never allowed you to acknowledge the truth, neither in the 50s nor now:

The truth is YOU ARE A SMALL MINORITY & YOU WILL FOLLOW OUR DECISIONS ON CYPRUS. PERIOD.

If you want to go back to your roots, be my guest; I would personally recommend Mersin rather than Ankara. Istanbul is becoming too Kurdish so best stay away for soon the road signs will be in Kurdish. I hear Kurds will insist on removing the minarets at Hagia Sofia, and restore it as the church of ecumenical Orthodoxy!

WE WILL NEVER AGAIN ALLOW YOU, AN UNGRATEFUL AND HYPOCRITICAL MINORITY THAT YOU ARE, TO HAVE A DEFINING SAY FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY.

IF YOU CONTINUE TO PLAY YOUR CARDS WRONG, YOU MAY NOT HAVE ANY SAY AT ALL.

GET OUT OF LAPITHOS, KERYNEIA, KARPASIA AND AMMOCHOSTOS. GO BACK TO YOUR ROOTS IN ANKARA IF YOU LIKE. OR LEARN GREEK AGAIN AND JOIN US [BETTER CHOICE OF ROOTS IF YOU ASK ME].

http://antifon.blogspot.com
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And how exactly are you going to achieve these 'brave' intentions,may I ask???

Oh I got it..You will force PARTITION on us,keep all the power you stole from us back in 63,and pretend that trnc does not exist...
You are a truly deluded individual,my dear friend...Tell me,how long have you been having these manic episodes where you believe you are invincible,capable of incredible,impossible tasks???Do you ever have moments of doubt? Do you suffer from depression and lack of motivation sometimes??? Perhaps you should see a psychiatrist before you do yourself some harm...

[BirKibrisli]

BirKibrisli...Did you even bother to read what I posted, or did you quickly jump to the 'He's Greek Cypriot, therefore stupid and therefore racist'? As a nation, I despise Turkey and despise its people BUT I don't know any personally - that doesn't make me a racist. A bit like Jews despising Nazis but not knowing any personally. It's just one of those things. I'm sure there are some good Turk people, but I'll never find out. In Cyprus, there are two sets of peoples - nobody has to get on with the other, nobody has to live with the other and nobody has to like the other. Why should people, just because they live in the same place like each other? How many times do you go on a bus, or a plane, or go to a restaurant, or go to the cinema, or whatever and speak to the person next to you just because they are another human being doing the same thing as you at exactly that same moment? You don't. Nobody does because everyone has their own life, their own agenda and their own business.

It is people like YOU, BirKibrisli, who are the racists and why Cyprus was split in the first place and why Cyprus will never be one. YOU, BirKibrisli, are the racist, nasty, hate-filling Turk who has found the grass is not greener and now you are reaping what you've sown.

It's funny how I've come on here and YOU, BirKibrisli, have been the one to start the name-calling. What a pathetic life you must lead.

I read enough of your post to sum you up perfectly...
You are either some old forumer here coming back to shitstir,or a big racist bigot trying to make his/her place amongst the other bigots...Which one is it??? Do I know you by any chance?? What do you know about me anyway??? Why shouldn't I call a spade a spade???

[BirKibrisli]

DTA...Oh, so now it's all 'My GC brother' and all that rubbish, but you hate Greek Cypriots because they're all racists who want Enosis. You talk about me being a hypocrite - at least I come on here and say how I feel, not go from one post to another spouting different stories to everyone on how I can get out of a predicament! At least be truthful and stick to one story!!

It's bizarre how you can take things out of context to manipulate your views. To invade another country, there must be a certain amount of exterminating (1974 being a prime example - how else would one side retaliate against another that is throwing rocks and firing a WWII pistol other than to drop Napalm bombs!), so the two 'jokes' are comparable.

I never mentioned an intelligent deabte because one can't be done with people like you. In your mind, there is only one view and that's yours! That's all I've read and heard - that island Turks are Turks and nothing else. You wanted mainland Turks to help you, you are goverened by mainland Turks, you speak Turk, you are all Muslims, therefore you are Turks! I don't see why that is me being racist. I stated I despised what they have done and what they stand for - those are the reasons I despise them. Are Jews racist ecause they hate all Nazis? Everyone has a hatred and everyone is racist, even if they won't admit it. I hate because of what they have done - not for no reason. A white who hates a black for the sole reason of the man's colour is the definition of a racist.

Oh and there's no need to descend to the depths of the gutter by swearing - that's the barbarian (and intelligence) in you coming out!!

What do you know about Islam,Mapko? You throw the word around like an insult...And tell us more about where you got your ideas about Turks and TCs??? We can do with some light enertainment..It is getting too boring here now that Oracle is gone...Or is she???

[Mapko]

BirKibrisli...You have just proved yourself to be the bigot. You mouth off about everyone else being the bigot and the racist in the hope people will be deflected away from yourself by defending themselves. You know nothing about me and I know everything about you. I have read your posts and I have met many people exactly like you. You can, by all means, call a spade a spade, but it only shows ignorance - would you call a caterpillar a caterpillar or a young butterfly?

I am neither. I joined some time ago but posted nothing. I read and continued to read posts but the dirt and lies coming from the mouths of the Turks has become the same old rubbish. I have not come on here to 'shitstir' (another intellect in the making), either. I had hoped to talk of a single Cyprus, unified with its Hellenes brothers, and what had happened with my family, but it has been taken over by the usual rubbish.

[DTA]

DTA...Oh, so now it's all 'My GC brother' and all that rubbish, but you hate Greek Cypriots because they're all racists who want Enosis. You talk about me being a hypocrite - at least I come on here and say how I feel, not go from one post to another spouting different stories to everyone on how I can get out of a predicament! At least be truthful and stick to one story!!

It's bizarre how you can take things out of context to manipulate your views. To invade another country, there must be a certain amount of exterminating (1974 being a prime example - how else would one side retaliate against another that is throwing rocks and firing a WWII pistol other than to drop Napalm bombs!), so the two 'jokes' are comparable.

I never mentioned an intelligent deabte because one can't be done with people like you. In your mind, there is only one view and that's yours! That's all I've read and heard - that island Turks are Turks and nothing else. You wanted mainland Turks to help you, you are goverened by mainland Turks, you speak Turk, you are all Muslims, therefore you are Turks! I don't see why that is me being racist. I stated I despised what they have done and what they stand for - those are the reasons I despise them. Are Jews racist ecause they hate all Nazis? Everyone has a hatred and everyone is racist, even if they won't admit it. I hate because of what they have done - not for no reason. A white who hates a black for the sole reason of the man's colour is the definition of a racist.

Oh and there's no need to descend to the depths of the gutter by swearing - that's the barbarian (and intelligence) in you coming out!!

wow you dazzle me with your intellect what are 10 years old?

Where have I ever said that I hate Gcs? -I hate those eoka bastards that killed six members of my family. I hate other Eoka bastards who tired to kill my grandfather. I hate those that forced my dads family off their lands and into enclaves.I hate the fact that my dad has millions of pounds worth of property in the Roc yet the ROC wont let him claim it, or even give him rent. I hate the fact that those that wanted enosis led to extreme violence and eventually the division of Cyprus and now blame the TCs for it. I hated it when I went and saw the Mass graves of whole villages wiped out by enosis wanted bitches, where these 'brave men' killed the elderly, women and children without remorse even a 14 day old child.

I hate all these things but I do not, have not, and never will hate all GCs- If I did that would make me racist - just like you.

[antifon]

gCypriots had every right to do chart Cyprus course. What was valid in the 50s is also valid today. They are the overwhelming majority of Cyprus.

Who the hell are you to object?

Anyway, all this won't matter soon. 65.000 souls will easily be integrated into RoC. They will of course have the right to go live in Ankara. Ideal for most of them as they feel Turks first.

http://antifon.blogspot.com

Proof that the ENOSIS mentality is still alive and well...This crush trough OR crush mentality brought untold pain and suffering to all Cypriots...You are obviously not cured of this cursed affliction...You cannot be trusted today,no more than you were yesterday...Thank you for confirming it antifon...

BirKibrisli, if that is what you understood then you are an idiot indeed!

Having said that and to make the point of Cypriots deciding democratically, then if the majority of Cypriots (not the illegal Turkeyish imports, but including all 63.500 remaining tCypriots) decided today they wanted union with Greece or Zimbabwe then so it will be.

WE WILL NEVER AGAIN ALLOW YOU, UNGRATEFUL AND HYPOCRITICAL AS YOU ARE, TO HAVE A DEFINING SAY FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY.

http://antifon.blogspot.com
.

Yep we know,antifon...You didnt want us to have a say in 1950s,and you don't want us to have a say now..Nothing has changed,some of you here are the living proof...That is why we have no choice but to return to our roots,and have our own country in which to have a say in our own destiny...

Because Turkey thinks she has strategic interests in Cyprus she never allowed you to acknowledge the truth, neither in the 50s nor now:

The truth is YOU ARE A SMALL MINORITY & YOU WILL FOLLOW OUR DECISIONS ON CYPRUS. PERIOD.

If you want to go back to your roots, be my guest; I would personally recommend Mersin rather than Ankara. Istanbul is becoming too Kurdish so best stay away for soon the road signs will be in Kurdish. I hear Kurds will insist on removing the minarets at Hagia Sofia, and restore it as the church of ecumenical Orthodoxy!

WE WILL NEVER AGAIN ALLOW YOU, AN UNGRATEFUL AND HYPOCRITICAL MINORITY THAT YOU ARE, TO HAVE A DEFINING SAY FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY.

IF YOU CONTINUE TO PLAY YOUR CARDS WRONG, YOU MAY NOT HAVE ANY SAY AT ALL.

GET OUT OF LAPITHOS, KERYNEIA, KARPASIA AND AMMOCHOSTOS. GO BACK TO YOUR ROOTS IN ANKARA IF YOU LIKE. OR LEARN GREEK AGAIN AND JOIN US [BETTER CHOICE OF ROOTS IF YOU ASK ME].

http://antifon.blogspot.com
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Look at this joker, only a little while ago he came to this forum pretending to be all about debate. Having found an amazing (and totally new and unique ) way to highlight the 'hypocracy' of the turkish cypriots... this little genious will relate it to issues around Turkish /Kurdish relations - wow what intellect

at this point - Kudos to GR because you had him sussed from one of his earlier posts, where I although dubious gave him the benifit of the doubt.

At fist he tried to debate with both GC and TCs, but his lack of knowledge about cyprus issues became more and more apparent and he was made to look more stupid (perhaps without even knowing it) ..... But he has his wild card the Kurdish Turkish relation - which he knows so little about it is quite shameful for someone who is even pretending to care for the issue of the Kurds.

So beaten, and defeated and frankly well out of his division in this forum and to be frank in the realms of grown up debate he lets his to true face be seen in the above post and many more like it... all of which he has posted recently all of which resemble the rantings of a petulant child.

Post like the above do anger me because they are so intrenched in ignorance and a thinly veiled hatred that I would like to respond in kind, but in doing so I may alienate the good GCs of this forum whom I would not wish to offend and although I do not agree with all their views I can see their perspectives and appreciate their honesty

What an intellectual you are!

One fact is indisputable: CYPRIOTS WILL DEFINE THE FUTURE OF CYPRUS. The 63.500 tCypriots left will soon disappear if Turkey has her way, and along with them the poor Turkeyish excuse for her presence in Cyprus. The only alternative tCypriots have is to acknowledge that they are a minority indeed, a smaller one than in 1960, and as such accept their re-integartion into the RoC on RoC/EU terms. tCypriots had no right to stand across from gCypriots in the 50s. They have even less of a right to do so today.

Why do you deny the Kurds the same level of rights in Turkey as you profess for 63.500 souls in Cyprus?

You will enjoy my latest article, especially the cartoon:
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2011/03/tur ... itive.html
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[DTA]

Antifon you talk of undisputable facts and say that there are only 63,000 tcs????

How can anyone take you seriously??

Let me set you a challenge, if you can prove there are less than 83,000 tc and I give this number to give yo 20k grace, then I will leave this forum and never again post, if you can't then you will, will you accept this challenge?