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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:53 pm

Nikitas wrote:50-50 can have many interpretations. Let us take one example recently unveiled by Eroglu over the properties issue. In the north the GC properties have been nationalised, so that, according to Eroglu, resollves the issue there. In the south, he said, the TC properties have come under the administration of the TC Properties Trustee and their ownership is traceable, therefore, according to Eroglua always, these properties should be developed jointly by the Properties Development Corporation in which TCs and GCs participate equally.

If this is the 50-50 you have in mind VP you can appreciate that you are looking for big time fools to join in. My approach is practical and I am always looking for a real life illustration of what people mean when they pretend to be expressing principles. Eroglu's view of 50-50 obviously refers to others' property. His own bit is always 100 per cent his.

Now honestly, would you go along with such a proposal? Really?


Im sure theres more to what Eroglu said than what you make out, those whos properties have been utilized will be compensated, those that have not will be returned.

Cant two sides be equal partners this does not mean everthing will be split down the middle every situation or issue will be evaluated on its own merits but both sides should have an equal say.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:57 pm

It’s a complete waste of time discussing what Eroglue said or didn’t say because all he’s doing (and what every other puppet “president” was doing) is ensuring that proposals are always 100% unacceptable… in line with Turkey’s wishes/instructions.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:42 am

Get Real! wrote:It’s a complete waste of time discussing what Eroglue said or didn’t say because all he’s doing (and what every other puppet “president” was doing) is ensuring that proposals are always 100% unacceptable… in line with Turkey’s wishes/instructions.


Your 'hour' might yet come,Tiberius...Gather your merceneries around your keyboard,the 'balance of power' will change very very soon... :)
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:26 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
Get Real! wrote:It’s a complete waste of time discussing what Eroglue said or didn’t say because all he’s doing (and what every other puppet “president” was doing) is ensuring that proposals are always 100% unacceptable… in line with Turkey’s wishes/instructions.


Your 'hour' might yet come,Tiberius...Gather your merceneries around your keyboard,the 'balance of power' will change very very soon... :)

It’s daft to ignore or deny geopolitical change at a time when many governments in Africa and the ME are being challenged and toppled in a domino effect!
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Postby antifon » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:00 pm

If you are not enjoying a lovely picnic of shish kebab in the lush countryside this Sunday morning, or exercising, then you will enjoy my latest post's cartoon:

The most important reality of all
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2011/03/mos ... f-all.html


Our Turkish problem is complex and hard to solve only because of Turkish fascism that also keeps 20 million Kurds (today is their Newroz New Year celebration by the way) in Turkey in chains. Turkish FASCISM is the root of our problem, and the depth of Turkish fascism reveals the size of our problem. With the Muslim world's successful liberation will bring an end to the myth the West so far did not wish to bust:

that Turkey is a model MUSLIM "DEMOCRACY".

It is only the former as a result of unabated fascism since 1923. Certainly not the latter, and the west will make it clear to her as soon as various secular democracies in the Muslim world begin taking hold which will themselves then will be model democracies for Turkey to follow.

In short: look into Turkey for a solution to our Turkish problem. No more looking within.
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Postby antifon » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:43 am

Who said on March 21st 2011:

Had Turkey only recognized Kurdish rights earlier, there would neither be a Kurdish problem nor so many Kurdish uprisings from the start of the republic up until now. Neither would the Kurds have felt any need for illegal organizations, nor would a group like the PKK have ever emerged. The only way to completely rid Turkey of this problem now is to recognize all the basic rights of the Kurdish people. A solution based on the principle of equality is possible, there are many examples of this throughout the world, and as we see it, this would take the shape of a federation.

Find out here >>
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2011/03/kem ... oblem.html
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Postby antifon » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:43 am

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Postby antifon » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:46 am

I hope our leaders have the common sense to be working on an updated 1963, adjusted for EU, so they have it ready to present at any time. It will be needed soon. The majority of gCypriots (and tCypriots too) will support it.

There is another point, harder to comprehend, but we all need to do adopt it, as it it an absolute prerequisite for a solution. Is it not a fact that Turkey won't easily budge? That she has strategic interests? That she would invent tCypriots had they not existed? Yes, to all three. Therefore, we must provide the international community and the EU arguments against Turkey. The argument that Turkey can say little to is:

You [Turks] must agree that whatever rights are agreed for an 18% minority in Cyprus then the same rights must be accepted for a 22+% minority of Kurds in Turkey. This a huge leverage that we are not yet using. The EU leverage is very important but not very effective since Turkey is not ready for the EU in any case for a myriad other reasons beyond Cyprus.

The Kurdish-tCypriot comparative analysis is a leverage that will:

- unveil TURKEYISH HYPOCRISY in the eyes of westerners
- deny Turkey the right to insist on illogical minority rights
- help common sense prevail in Turkey herself for her 20m Kurds

Go to my blog for more. Many already do:
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Postby antifon » Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:29 pm

Turkish Cypriot ingratitude unabated!

Turkish Cypriots (tCypriots herein) incorrectly and hypocritically hide behind two enormous injustices against the Greek Cypriots (gCypriots herein): [a] the illogical super-rights and ill-equality Turkey secured on their behalf in 1960 & [b] the division and ethnic cleansing performed in their name by Turkey in 1974.

Read more >>
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2011/03/tur ... bated.html

I think the cartoon says it all!
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Postby antifon » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:47 pm

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Read more here>>
Turkish Cypriot ingratitude unabated!
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2011/03/tur ... bated.html
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