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Just who the bloody hell do we think we are?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby B25 » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:42 am

antifon wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Hes a moron with no understanding of the Tcs whatsoever he is just another fanatic hell bent on turning the whole island in to a Greek island, which of course we will never allow.


And what are you?

You are his direct opposite :lol:


An average TC, he is an extremist and wants maximal demands whereas i willing to share equally.




That's the tragedy: "i [am] willing to share equally"

You can have 9%. Is that OK? That's an accurate reflection of the numbers of authentic tCypriots I believe today.
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No re, his share has to be 50%, thats his problem.

Share yes, equal share F no!
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Postby antifon » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:51 am

B25 wrote:
antifon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Hes a moron with no understanding of the Tcs whatsoever he is just another fanatic hell bent on turning the whole island in to a Greek island, which of course we will never allow.


And what are you?

You are his direct opposite :lol:


An average TC, he is an extremist and wants maximal demands whereas i willing to share equally.




That's the tragedy: "i [am] willing to share equally"

You can have 9%. Is that OK? That's an accurate reflection of the numbers of authentic tCypriots I believe today.
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No re, his share has to be 50%, thats his problem.

Share yes, equal share F no!




Which ties in very well with the thread's title: but who the bloody hell does he think he is?

As I said many times before, he & others like him, as nice as they may be or not, are truly irrelevant. We have a Turkish problem and we need to shift our attention to the bully to our north. We need to meddle in their affairs, just as they do in ours. We need to highlight the hypocrisy with how Ankara would like to "give more rights" to the 20 million Kurds within the framework of a policy of integration. But in Cyprus, for about 65.000 tCypriots Ankara wishes to advance, using its leverage, a completely different philosophy; a loose federation/confederation based on ethnocommunal lines.

We need to play ball in Turkey's turf.

tCypriots, in large part due to decisions & policies they made or agreed to have rendered themselves IRRELEVANT. They will simply have to settle for what we, and the EU, offer them. And they are fools to reject it as it will be far better than what the majority of them have today.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:58 am

anti the whole game changed in 1974 the 70 30 partnership did not work as you wanted 100% but not there are 2 states one recognized one not and that means 2 sides 50 50, in resolving this issue do you not have to get the norths YES? does it represent 50% of the say in whether we move forward or not? Get used to it we are equal partner now and any solution will reflect this, what you think a BBF with political equality means' so your rantings are irrelevant.
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Postby antifon » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:02 pm

Viewpoint wrote:anti the whole game changed in 1974 the 70 30 partnership did not work as you wanted 100% but not there are 2 states one recognized one not and that means 2 sides 50 50, in resolving this issue do you not have to get the norths YES? does it represent 50% of the say in whether we move forward or not? Get used to it we are equal partner now and any solution will reflect this, what you think a BBF with political equality means' so your rantings are irrelevant.



Your thesis is based on a CRIME. Let me sum up 1974 for you:

- ILLEGAL INVASION
- ILLEGAL OCCUPATION
- ETHNIC CLEANSING
- ILLEGAL COLONIZATION

Now put two and two together, in non Turkish fashion if you will. What did you come up with?

If not four, then we have a problem. Rather, you have!
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:03 pm

Viewpoint wrote:anti the whole game changed in 1974 the 70 30 partnership did not work as you wanted 100% but not there are 2 states one recognized one not and that means 2 sides 50 50, in resolving this issue do you not have to get the norths YES? does it represent 50% of the say in whether we move forward or not? Get used to it we are equal partner now and any solution will reflect this, what you think a BBF with political equality means' so your rantings are irrelevant.


Good luck in getting the GCs to accept!

At the moment they have all the recognition with a 100% say in their own affairs! I don't think they will go back to being a mere ethnic community when they have a nation!

Good luck!!!
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:06 pm

antifon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:anti the whole game changed in 1974 the 70 30 partnership did not work as you wanted 100% but not there are 2 states one recognized one not and that means 2 sides 50 50, in resolving this issue do you not have to get the norths YES? does it represent 50% of the say in whether we move forward or not? Get used to it we are equal partner now and any solution will reflect this, what you think a BBF with political equality means' so your rantings are irrelevant.



Your thesis is based on a CRIME. Let me sum up 1974 for you:

- ILLEGAL INVASION
- ILLEGAL OCCUPATION
- ETHNIC CLEANSING
- ILLEGAL COLONIZATION

Now put two and two together, in non Turkish fashion if you will. What did you come up with?

If not four, then we have a problem. Rather, you have!
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Hello this has happened all over the world, we are not reinventing the wheel. Your excuses are lame and confused do your know the difference between private land ownership and sovereignty?
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Postby antifon » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:16 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
antifon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:anti the whole game changed in 1974 the 70 30 partnership did not work as you wanted 100% but not there are 2 states one recognized one not and that means 2 sides 50 50, in resolving this issue do you not have to get the norths YES? does it represent 50% of the say in whether we move forward or not? Get used to it we are equal partner now and any solution will reflect this, what you think a BBF with political equality means' so your rantings are irrelevant.



Your thesis is based on a CRIME. Let me sum up 1974 for you:

- ILLEGAL INVASION
- ILLEGAL OCCUPATION
- ETHNIC CLEANSING
- ILLEGAL COLONIZATION

Now put two and two together, in non Turkish fashion if you will. What did you come up with?

If not four, then we have a problem. Rather, you have!
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Hello this has happened all over the world, we are not reinventing the wheel. Your excuses are lame and confused do your know the difference between private land ownership and sovereignty?





So let me understand your Turkish thinking:

Because these things [ILLEGAL INVASION, ILLEGAL OCCUPATION, ETHNIC CLEANSING, ILLEGAL COLONIZATION] happen all over the world it makes it ok in Cyprus too?

Only Turks!

If any of you have not read the World Affairs Journal article, you are truly missing. Find link here:
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2011/03/ins ... syche.html


What sovereignty? "trnc"'s? You are truly hopeless! I love it.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:21 pm

It is obvious that this peepsquick is deeply disturbed mentally and just seeking attention...My advice to the TCs is not to give it to him...It is equally obvious that there will be no agreed solution in the near future...We might truly not have any option but wait for the 'balance of power to change' and see which community will be wiped off the face of Cyprus first...That is the sad conclusion I've come to after years of trying to reason with these fanatics here...These people have no sense,no positive feelings ,and no moral fibre whatsoever...They live in their own hell,and would like to take the rest of Cypriots with them...They might just succeed...
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:32 pm

50-50 can have many interpretations. Let us take one example recently unveiled by Eroglu over the properties issue. In the north the GC properties have been nationalised, so that, according to Eroglu, resollves the issue there. In the south, he said, the TC properties have come under the administration of the TC Properties Trustee and their ownership is traceable, therefore, according to Eroglua always, these properties should be developed jointly by the Properties Development Corporation in which TCs and GCs participate equally.

If this is the 50-50 you have in mind VP you can appreciate that you are looking for big time fools to join in. My approach is practical and I am always looking for a real life illustration of what people mean when they pretend to be expressing principles. Eroglu's view of 50-50 obviously refers to others' property. His own bit is always 100 per cent his.

Now honestly, would you go along with such a proposal? Really?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:43 pm

antifon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
antifon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:anti the whole game changed in 1974 the 70 30 partnership did not work as you wanted 100% but not there are 2 states one recognized one not and that means 2 sides 50 50, in resolving this issue do you not have to get the norths YES? does it represent 50% of the say in whether we move forward or not? Get used to it we are equal partner now and any solution will reflect this, what you think a BBF with political equality means' so your rantings are irrelevant.



Your thesis is based on a CRIME. Let me sum up 1974 for you:

- ILLEGAL INVASION
- ILLEGAL OCCUPATION
- ETHNIC CLEANSING
- ILLEGAL COLONIZATION

Now put two and two together, in non Turkish fashion if you will. What did you come up with?

If not four, then we have a problem. Rather, you have!
.


Hello this has happened all over the world, we are not reinventing the wheel. Your excuses are lame and confused do your know the difference between private land ownership and sovereignty?





So let me understand your Turkish thinking:

Because these things [ILLEGAL INVASION, ILLEGAL OCCUPATION, ETHNIC CLEANSING, ILLEGAL COLONIZATION] happen all over the world it makes it ok in Cyprus too?

Only Turks!

If any of you have not read the World Affairs Journal article, you are truly missing. Find link here:
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2011/03/ins ... syche.html


What sovereignty? "trnc"'s? You are truly hopeless! I love it.
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You are avoiding the real question do you understand the difference between private land ownership and sovereignty, your stupidity really amuses me.
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