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[antifon]

These tCypriots, good or not so good as they may be, are irrelevant for defining Cyprus' future.

Think of all that a crippled RoC has achieved despite them and the evil they brought on, and yet they feel proud of these achievements (e.g. EU, euro, etc.) and consider them their own. As if they contributed. As if we will ever let them have veto rights. As if we will ever be equal to them as they understand equality to be.

It does not matter whether we want to live with them or not. It does not matter what they want.

Alea jacta est.

The political tsunami to soon hit them will force many of them to leave. The rest will be reintegrated back into the RoC on an 1963 adjusted for EU basis.

Their community "rights" will be severely curtailed which can only be a good thing for Cypriot democracy. Cypriot developments will also mark the beginning of things to improve in Turkey for the Kurds too.

The rest is just having fun with the people who have caused us immense suffering via their ignorance, arrogance and propaganda exposure.

Merely looking at their inability to grasp the enormity of gCypriot suffering caused because of 1974, unabated to this day, and their equating it to their SELF-INFLICTED suffering of 65-74 in a tit-for-tat spirit, is proof enough of what immature, illogical, ungrateful and hopeless people we are dealing with.

I say in this spirit:

LET THEM EITHER GO TO HELL (or Turkey; can't decide which is better) OR ACCEPT THE REALITY THAT THIS LAND IS THE LAND OF CYPRIOTS, NOT THE PROSTITUTES OF TURKEY (OR ANYONE ELSE's FOR THAT MATTER).

AND, YES YOU GUESSED RIGHT, tCYPRIOTS (other than as individual citizens of the state) ARE NOT EQUAL TO US. THE SOONER THEY UNDERSTAND THE BASICS THE BETTER FOR THEM, AND THEM ALONE.
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[BirKibrisli]

Okey,the problem is solved then...There are no Cypriots only Greeks and Turks in Cyprus...So this is a matter between Greece and Turkey...Since Turkey has invaded part of Greece,it is upto the Greeks to come and throw them out...We will just watch from the sidelines,as interested spectators,shall we??? Winner takes all...Agreed???

[DTA]

Okey,the problem is solved then...There are no Cypriots only Greeks and Turks in Cyprus...So this is a matter between Greece and Turkey...Since Turkey has invaded part of Greece,it is upto the Greeks to come and throw them out...We will just watch from the sidelines,as interested spectators,shall we??? Winner takes all...Agreed???

At what point Bir, do we stop trying to reason with people like antifon, stop trying to educate so that they can see that both communities have done wrong, and their myopic version of history is flawed.

At what point do we say fuck it, enough is enough. Are their views representative of the majority of the GCs, and if so why are we even contemplating any form of unification?

If you take this forum to represent a united cyprus (majority GC but with a minority of TCs)
The worse thing about it is this, not that there are fascist and racist in the GCs community because there are arseholes in every community. But
that vast majority of Gc forum members do not pull them up, and the one that does consistantly is labeled a traitor and not a GC.

[antifon]

Okey,the problem is solved then...There are no Cypriots only Greeks and Turks in Cyprus...So this is a matter between Greece and Turkey...Since Turkey has invaded part of Greece,it is upto the Greeks to come and throw them out...We will just watch from the sidelines,as interested spectators,shall we??? Winner takes all...Agreed???

At what point Bir, do we stop trying to reason with people like antifon, stop trying to educate so that they can see that both communities have done wrong, and their myopic version of history is flawed.

At what point do we say fuck it, enough is enough. Are their views representative of the majority of the GCs, and if so why are we even contemplating any form of unification?

If you take this forum to represent a united cyprus (majority GC but with a minority of TCs)
The worse thing about it is this, not that there are fascist and racist in the GCs community because there are arseholes in every community. But
that vast majority of Gc forum members do not pull them up, and the one that does consistantly is labeled a traitor and not a GC.

Never did I suggest that only tCypriots made mistakes.

You can say 'fuck it' already, unless you realize that the Cyprus we have you cannot ever be allowed to hold by the balls. That's the essence.

In other words:
WE ARE NOT EQUALS THE WAY YOU UNDERSTAND IT.

If too complicated for you, then I agree, time to say 'fuck it' & move on.
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[DTA]

Okey,the problem is solved then...There are no Cypriots only Greeks and Turks in Cyprus...So this is a matter between Greece and Turkey...Since Turkey has invaded part of Greece,it is upto the Greeks to come and throw them out...We will just watch from the sidelines,as interested spectators,shall we??? Winner takes all...Agreed???

At what point Bir, do we stop trying to reason with people like antifon, stop trying to educate so that they can see that both communities have done wrong, and their myopic version of history is flawed.

At what point do we say fuck it, enough is enough. Are their views representative of the majority of the GCs, and if so why are we even contemplating any form of unification?

If you take this forum to represent a united cyprus (majority GC but with a minority of TCs)
The worse thing about it is this, not that there are fascist and racist in the GCs community because there are arseholes in every community. But
that vast majority of Gc forum members do not pull them up, and the one that does consistantly is labeled a traitor and not a GC.

Never did I suggest that only tCypriots made mistakes.

You can say 'fuck it' already, unless you realize that the Cyprus we have you cannot ever be allowed to hold by the balls. That's the essence.

In other words:
WE ARE NOT EQUALS THE WAY YOU UNDERSTAND IT.

If too complicated for you, then I agree, time to say 'fuck it' & move on.
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There may be a time to say fuck it... but moving on, well that depends on what that means to you? if it means leaving cyprus ... no never. you will have to kill us all first

[antifon]

Okey,the problem is solved then...There are no Cypriots only Greeks and Turks in Cyprus...So this is a matter between Greece and Turkey...Since Turkey has invaded part of Greece,it is upto the Greeks to come and throw them out...We will just watch from the sidelines,as interested spectators,shall we??? Winner takes all...Agreed???

At what point Bir, do we stop trying to reason with people like antifon, stop trying to educate so that they can see that both communities have done wrong, and their myopic version of history is flawed.

At what point do we say fuck it, enough is enough. Are their views representative of the majority of the GCs, and if so why are we even contemplating any form of unification?

If you take this forum to represent a united cyprus (majority GC but with a minority of TCs)
The worse thing about it is this, not that there are fascist and racist in the GCs community because there are arseholes in every community. But
that vast majority of Gc forum members do not pull them up, and the one that does consistantly is labeled a traitor and not a GC.

Never did I suggest that only tCypriots made mistakes.

You can say 'fuck it' already, unless you realize that the Cyprus we have you cannot ever be allowed to hold by the balls. That's the essence.

In other words:
WE ARE NOT EQUALS THE WAY YOU UNDERSTAND IT.

If too complicated for you, then I agree, time to say 'fuck it' & move on.
.

There may be a time to say fuck it... but moving on, well that depends on what that means to you? if it means leaving cyprus ... no never. you will have to kill us all first

I don't want you to leave dumbass!
I'd appreciate if you cleared the trash you invited though. OK?

The literal 'kill' talk is your domain & the TSK/Ergenekon scum's.
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[BirKibrisli]

Okey,the problem is solved then...There are no Cypriots only Greeks and Turks in Cyprus...So this is a matter between Greece and Turkey...Since Turkey has invaded part of Greece,it is upto the Greeks to come and throw them out...We will just watch from the sidelines,as interested spectators,shall we??? Winner takes all...Agreed???

At what point Bir, do we stop trying to reason with people like antifon, stop trying to educate so that they can see that both communities have done wrong, and their myopic version of history is flawed.

At what point do we say fuck it, enough is enough. Are their views representative of the majority of the GCs, and if so why are we even contemplating any form of unification?

If you take this forum to represent a united cyprus (majority GC but with a minority of TCs)
The worse thing about it is this, not that there are fascist and racist in the GCs community because there are arseholes in every community. But
that vast majority of Gc forum members do not pull them up, and the one that does consistantly is labeled a traitor and not a GC.

Just about now ,mate...Just about now...As you know I did nothing but talk about the TC wrongs for the first 3 years of my time here...Perhaps I should blame myself for making them think they did nothing wrong...I was praised by the GCs then and called a traitor by the TCs here...When I realised my mistake and tried to balance the equation I quickly became a fascist Turk for the GCs...

To be honest I do think there is 1000 fanatical GCs to every Bananiot out there...And in any society it is mostly the fanatics,the loud mouths,the bigots who carry the day...They influence the government decisions.They determine the political agenda.....The decent folk who are in the minority are too intimidated to speak up...When they do the hyenas jump on them and tear them to shreds...I feel for the moderates and the progressives on both sides...There is little hope that their voices will carry far in this hate charged environment..We have wasted too many years,entrenched too many negative feelings,brainwashed too many young minds...

The only unification we can ever hope for now is one based on a BBF with strong state governments and a weak federal government with very limited and well specified powers...And I am not confident we can even achieve that...Those who are awaiting the new new world order (with changes in the balance of power) might get their wish after all...I am starting to believe Cyprus is too small for two communities like ours...

[antifon]

Okey,the problem is solved then...There are no Cypriots only Greeks and Turks in Cyprus...So this is a matter between Greece and Turkey...Since Turkey has invaded part of Greece,it is upto the Greeks to come and throw them out...We will just watch from the sidelines,as interested spectators,shall we??? Winner takes all...Agreed???

At what point Bir, do we stop trying to reason with people like antifon, stop trying to educate so that they can see that both communities have done wrong, and their myopic version of history is flawed.

At what point do we say fuck it, enough is enough. Are their views representative of the majority of the GCs, and if so why are we even contemplating any form of unification?

If you take this forum to represent a united cyprus (majority GC but with a minority of TCs)
The worse thing about it is this, not that there are fascist and racist in the GCs community because there are arseholes in every community. But
that vast majority of Gc forum members do not pull them up, and the one that does consistantly is labeled a traitor and not a GC.

Just about now ,mate...Just about now...As you know I did nothing but talk about the TC wrongs for the first 3 years of my time here...Perhaps I should blame myself for making them think they did nothing wrong...I was praised by the GCs then and called a traitor by the TCs here...When I realised my mistake and tried to balance the equation I quickly became a fascist Turk for the GCs...

To be honest I do think there is 1000 fanatical GCs to every Bananiot out there...And in any society it is mostly the fanatics,the loud mouths,the bigots who carry the day...They influence the government decisions.They determine the political agenda.....The decent folk who are in the minority are too intimidated to speak up...When they do the hyenas jump on them and tear them to shreds...I feel for the moderates and the progressives on both sides...There is little hope that their voices will carry far in this hate charged environment..We have wasted too many years,entrenched too many negative feelings,brainwashed too many young minds...

The only unification we can ever hope for now is one based on a BBF with strong state governments and a weak federal government with very limited and well specified powers...And I am not confident we can even achieve that...Those who are awaiting the new new world order (with changes in the balance of power) might get their wish after all...I am starting to believe Cyprus is too small for two communities like ours...

Birkbrisli, there is only RoC! The one you could decide to join back under certain conditions. All else is boo-ha-ha (or if you prefer, Boo-Boo-Fa).

Believe it. Cyprus is too small for the hypocrisy, idiocy & grandstanding of what once used to be an 18% minority, now fast shrinking to a mere 50.000 souls!
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[DTA]

Antifon even if turkey left tomorrow without a compromise and an agreement to a bbf then you would still have to take the north by force.

So tell me how you will convince the tcs to say yes to the 63 agreements?

[antifon]

Antifon even if turkey left tomorrow without a compromise and an agreement to a bbf then you would still have to take the north by force.

So tell me how you will convince the tcs to say yes to the 63 agreements?

Honestly you want me to answer that?
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