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Postby antifon » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:35 pm

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Mapko wrote:Viewpoint...The Greek Cypriots forced the Turks into enclaves? Really, is that so? The Greek Cypriots and Turks lived in the same villages, amongst each other. I've posted many times on here that my family lived side-by-side with Turks and there was no violence and no hostility towards each other. The Turks withdrew from the government - nobody threw them out. You had proportional representation, i.e. if there were 100,000 GreekCypriots, there were 100 Greek Cypriot MP's; if there 6,000 Turks, there would only be a need for 6 Turk MP's. Why should there be a need for more? You also had high-ranking members in the government, too. You played the martyrs and let Mother Turkey come to your rescue.


Thats the version you have been fed, enosis came before taksim and was in direct response, you forced us out of government by not adhering to the 1960 agreements and even going against a supreme court judgement. You treated us like shit and burned our houses down, people started disappearing and we lived in fear thats why we were forced into enclaves. We had to turn to someone for help as you were much larger and stronger than us, we fought for survival the best way we could.




But why the UN Secretary General disagrees with you and says that following the Dec 63 - Dec 64 ethno-communal violence which was to a large extend provoked by Turkey/TMT you have ONLY YOURSELVES TO BLAME?

Why the Turkish military bombed mosques in Cyprus | Hürriyet Daily News
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2011/03/why ... es-in.html

UNSG says tCypriots pursued SELF-SEGREGATION (find link to UN below)
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2010/12/was ... nal-t.html
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:37 pm

antifon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Mapko wrote:Viewpoint...The Greek Cypriots forced the Turks into enclaves? Really, is that so? The Greek Cypriots and Turks lived in the same villages, amongst each other. I've posted many times on here that my family lived side-by-side with Turks and there was no violence and no hostility towards each other. The Turks withdrew from the government - nobody threw them out. You had proportional representation, i.e. if there were 100,000 GreekCypriots, there were 100 Greek Cypriot MP's; if there 6,000 Turks, there would only be a need for 6 Turk MP's. Why should there be a need for more? You also had high-ranking members in the government, too. You played the martyrs and let Mother Turkey come to your rescue.


Thats the version you have been fed, enosis came before taksim and was in direct response, you forced us out of government by not adhering to the 1960 agreements and even going against a supreme court judgement. You treated us like shit and burned our houses down, people started disappearing and we lived in fear thats why we were forced into enclaves. We had to turn to someone for help as you were much larger and stronger than us, we fought for survival the best way we could.




But why the UN Secretary General disagrees with you and says that following the Dec 63 - Dec 64 ethno-communal violence which was to a large extend provoked by Turkey/TMT you have ONLY YOURSELVES TO BLAME?

Why the Turkish military bombed mosques in Cyprus | Hürriyet Daily News
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2011/03/why ... es-in.html

UNSG says tCypriots pursued SELF-SEGREGATION (find link to UN below)
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2010/12/was ... nal-t.html


Hello if the UN was so committed why arent they enforcing their claims?

All propaganda its about time you GCs owned up and apologized.
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Postby Mapko » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:42 pm

Viewpoint...Yes, Enosis came first because that's what was promised to the Cypriots by the British. They dangled it in front of us and then snatched it away. We didn't treat you in any way but with kindness and friendship and you repaid us by hopping into bed with the British and murdering us with their help and their weapons. I've already posted to you elsewhere that your issues should be with the British and not the Greeks, but you still have hatred for the Greeks. You had help from the British and then Turkey when we had help from nobody. When the mainland Greeks (oh, dear - am I being racist by calling them 'mainland Greeks'?) tried to help, your stinking American (is that racist, too?) stepped in and threatened them. The Americans, in perverseness, also stopped you from stealing more than the 37% you now illegally occupy. Enclaves again! Everybody was in enclaves - they were called villages.
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Postby antifon » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:45 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
antifon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Mapko wrote:Viewpoint...The Greek Cypriots forced the Turks into enclaves? Really, is that so? The Greek Cypriots and Turks lived in the same villages, amongst each other. I've posted many times on here that my family lived side-by-side with Turks and there was no violence and no hostility towards each other. The Turks withdrew from the government - nobody threw them out. You had proportional representation, i.e. if there were 100,000 GreekCypriots, there were 100 Greek Cypriot MP's; if there 6,000 Turks, there would only be a need for 6 Turk MP's. Why should there be a need for more? You also had high-ranking members in the government, too. You played the martyrs and let Mother Turkey come to your rescue.


Thats the version you have been fed, enosis came before taksim and was in direct response, you forced us out of government by not adhering to the 1960 agreements and even going against a supreme court judgement. You treated us like shit and burned our houses down, people started disappearing and we lived in fear thats why we were forced into enclaves. We had to turn to someone for help as you were much larger and stronger than us, we fought for survival the best way we could.




But why the UN Secretary General disagrees with you and says that following the Dec 63 - Dec 64 ethno-communal violence which was to a large extend provoked by Turkey/TMT you have ONLY YOURSELVES TO BLAME?

Why the Turkish military bombed mosques in Cyprus | Hürriyet Daily News
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2011/03/why ... es-in.html

UNSG says tCypriots pursued SELF-SEGREGATION (find link to UN below)
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2010/12/was ... nal-t.html


Hello if the UN was so committed why arent they enforcing their claims?

All propaganda its about time you GCs owned up and apologized.





Yes, Hurriyet Daily News is running pieces favorable to gCypriots at the command of Christofias!

The political tsunami is coming VP.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:45 pm

Mapko wrote:Viewpoint...Yes, Enosis came first because that's what was promised to the Cypriots by the British. They dangled it in front of us and then snatched it away. We didn't treat you in any way but with kindness and friendship and you repaid us by hopping into bed with the British and murdering us with their help and their weapons. I've already posted to you elsewhere that your issues should be with the British and not the Greeks, but you still have hatred for the Greeks. You had help from the British and then Turkey when we had help from nobody. When the mainland Greeks (oh, dear - am I being racist by calling them 'mainland Greeks'?) tried to help, your stinking American (is that racist, too?) stepped in and threatened them. The Americans, in perverseness, also stopped you from stealing more than the 37% you now illegally occupy. Enclaves again! Everybody was in enclaves - they were called villages.


Your greed to give the island away to Greece was your downfall all we did was fight for survival and in the process you got an independent GC state but lost 37% of the island forever. You treated us badly where were you when my family were begging for democracy and human rights? turning your back no doubt, do you even know of the suffering of TCs form 1963 to 1974?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:48 pm

antifon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
antifon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Mapko wrote:Viewpoint...The Greek Cypriots forced the Turks into enclaves? Really, is that so? The Greek Cypriots and Turks lived in the same villages, amongst each other. I've posted many times on here that my family lived side-by-side with Turks and there was no violence and no hostility towards each other. The Turks withdrew from the government - nobody threw them out. You had proportional representation, i.e. if there were 100,000 GreekCypriots, there were 100 Greek Cypriot MP's; if there 6,000 Turks, there would only be a need for 6 Turk MP's. Why should there be a need for more? You also had high-ranking members in the government, too. You played the martyrs and let Mother Turkey come to your rescue.


Thats the version you have been fed, enosis came before taksim and was in direct response, you forced us out of government by not adhering to the 1960 agreements and even going against a supreme court judgement. You treated us like shit and burned our houses down, people started disappearing and we lived in fear thats why we were forced into enclaves. We had to turn to someone for help as you were much larger and stronger than us, we fought for survival the best way we could.




But why the UN Secretary General disagrees with you and says that following the Dec 63 - Dec 64 ethno-communal violence which was to a large extend provoked by Turkey/TMT you have ONLY YOURSELVES TO BLAME?

Why the Turkish military bombed mosques in Cyprus | Hürriyet Daily News
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2011/03/why ... es-in.html

UNSG says tCypriots pursued SELF-SEGREGATION (find link to UN below)
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2010/12/was ... nal-t.html


Hello if the UN was so committed why arent they enforcing their claims?

All propaganda its about time you GCs owned up and apologized.





Yes, Hurriyet Daily News is running pieces favorable to gCypriots at the command of Christofias!

The political tsunami is coming VP.
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Are you mentality disturbed because thats how you sound.
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Postby antifon » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:49 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Mapko wrote:Viewpoint...Yes, Enosis came first because that's what was promised to the Cypriots by the British. They dangled it in front of us and then snatched it away. We didn't treat you in any way but with kindness and friendship and you repaid us by hopping into bed with the British and murdering us with their help and their weapons. I've already posted to you elsewhere that your issues should be with the British and not the Greeks, but you still have hatred for the Greeks. You had help from the British and then Turkey when we had help from nobody. When the mainland Greeks (oh, dear - am I being racist by calling them 'mainland Greeks'?) tried to help, your stinking American (is that racist, too?) stepped in and threatened them. The Americans, in perverseness, also stopped you from stealing more than the 37% you now illegally occupy. Enclaves again! Everybody was in enclaves - they were called villages.


Your greed to give the island away to Greece was your downfall all we did was fight for survival and in the process you got an independent GC state but lost 37% of the island forever. You treated us badly where were you when my family were begging for democracy and human rights? turning your back no doubt, do you even know of the suffering of TCs form 1963 to 1974?






SELF-INFLICTED SUFFERING! As per the UNITED NATIONS SECRETARY GENERAL himself!

See UN link below:
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2010/12/was ... nal-t.html
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:52 pm

antifon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Mapko wrote:Viewpoint...Yes, Enosis came first because that's what was promised to the Cypriots by the British. They dangled it in front of us and then snatched it away. We didn't treat you in any way but with kindness and friendship and you repaid us by hopping into bed with the British and murdering us with their help and their weapons. I've already posted to you elsewhere that your issues should be with the British and not the Greeks, but you still have hatred for the Greeks. You had help from the British and then Turkey when we had help from nobody. When the mainland Greeks (oh, dear - am I being racist by calling them 'mainland Greeks'?) tried to help, your stinking American (is that racist, too?) stepped in and threatened them. The Americans, in perverseness, also stopped you from stealing more than the 37% you now illegally occupy. Enclaves again! Everybody was in enclaves - they were called villages.


Your greed to give the island away to Greece was your downfall all we did was fight for survival and in the process you got an independent GC state but lost 37% of the island forever. You treated us badly where were you when my family were begging for democracy and human rights? turning your back no doubt, do you even know of the suffering of TCs form 1963 to 1974?






SELF-INFLICTED SUFFERING! As per the UNITED NATIONS SECRETARY GENERAL himself!

See UN link below:
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2010/12/was ... nal-t.html
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No mention of the events of 1963 and the subsequent killing and forcing of the 13 points...so this can be dismissed as being biased and one sided.
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Postby DTA » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:54 pm

antifon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Mapko wrote:Viewpoint...Yes, Enosis came first because that's what was promised to the Cypriots by the British. They dangled it in front of us and then snatched it away. We didn't treat you in any way but with kindness and friendship and you repaid us by hopping into bed with the British and murdering us with their help and their weapons. I've already posted to you elsewhere that your issues should be with the British and not the Greeks, but you still have hatred for the Greeks. You had help from the British and then Turkey when we had help from nobody. When the mainland Greeks (oh, dear - am I being racist by calling them 'mainland Greeks'?) tried to help, your stinking American (is that racist, too?) stepped in and threatened them. The Americans, in perverseness, also stopped you from stealing more than the 37% you now illegally occupy. Enclaves again! Everybody was in enclaves - they were called villages.


Your greed to give the island away to Greece was your downfall all we did was fight for survival and in the process you got an independent GC state but lost 37% of the island forever. You treated us badly where were you when my family were begging for democracy and human rights? turning your back no doubt, do you even know of the suffering of TCs form 1963 to 1974?






SELF-INFLICTED SUFFERING! As per the UNITED NATIONS SECRETARY GENERAL himself!

See UN link below:
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2010/12/was ... nal-t.html
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Was this not rebutted a little while back in the forum... as the un secretary general was quoting from Gc sources?
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Postby Mapko » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:55 pm

Viewpoint...Don't you dare come on here and profess how badly done to you and the rest of the Turks have been at the hands of the Greeks. We won't even go into the Constantinople Pogrom against the mainland Greeks or why, to this day, the Cretans still hate you, but let's talk of the Greek Cypriots. I posted earlier today replies to your points on the character traits of the Greeks on this forum. You have not made a credible response to back up any of your claims.

WHERE THE F*CK WERE YOU WHEN YOUR FILTHY F*CKING ARMY DROVE MY GRANDMA AND GRANDDAD UP INTO THE MOUNTAINS TO PERISH LIKE F*CKING GOATS? And you say you are hard done to!
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