Yes!
Turks have lived under military dictatorship since the inception of their state. Only recently is there a glimmer of hope. Doubtful where it will lead the country as freedoms are again under attack. Turks are Turks means they are conditioned to think in militaristic/fascist fashion. If they had true democracy things would be different.
So yes, Turks must first cease to be Turks before we can see eye to eye.
Turks can change, but it will take a long time after proper democracy is introduced. Decades for sure. That's our very misfortune! However, as of recent, and perhaps with a bit of help from gas finds, Israel, Iraqi Kurdistan & your very own decision to expose your thinking to the EU via the accession process, the world is on to you. And it works in our favor. We win sympathy. Who wouldn't when faced with such self-indulgent FASCISM!
As the author of the article listed below says:
""The utter irrationality of Turks—and the utter uselessness, for them, of our Western notions of truth and logic—are points Americans won’t grasp unless they’ve lived here quite some time—and even then they won’t grasp them, because they make no sense.""
""They don’t even know they’re lying. In Turkey, it is normal and expected to say that you will do something, have done something, or agree with something when, in fact, you won’t, haven’t, or don’t. This is so common that no one thinks of it as lying, in the sense that it is not viewed as unethical. It is just being polite. They assume you know they’re not being truthful, and they expect you to be lying as well, so it all evens out. ""
Read here [link to the WAJ article] for a more in depth analysis:
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2011/03/ins ... syche.html
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