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[JackDoe]

I've been reading this forum for some time now and have seen some posters claim "Divide and conquer"; "Kissinger"; "forced to sign 1960 agreement" etc.. etc... time and time again.

If you really believe this to be true then please answer the questions below.

Do any of you believe that:

a) unless the powers that got Cyprus into the trouble it's in in the first place will ever allow a solution unless it's in their favor?

b) it's up to Turkey to just up and leave and the island will simply unify henceforth without any incidence?

c) Turkey is just a puppet and will only leave when it's been told to at just the right time that suits the bigger players?

d) with what's going on in Egypt, Libya etc., Turkey's geographical position is more important than the unification of Cyprus?

[ZoC]

I've been reading this forum for some time now and have seen some posters claim "Divide and conquer"; "Kissinger"; "forced to sign 1960 agreement" etc.. etc... time and time again.

If you really believe this to be true then please answer the questions below.

Do any of you believe that:

a) unless the powers that got Cyprus into the trouble it's in in the first place will ever allow a solution unless it's in their favor?

b) it's up to Turkey to just up and leave and the island will simply unify henceforth without any incidence?

c) Turkey is just a puppet and will only leave when it's been told to at just the right time that suits the bigger players?

d) with what's going on in Egypt, Libya etc., Turkey's geographical position is more important than the unification of Cyprus?

sorry, jd. questions are bit too confusing... and poorly worded.

but to address the main thrust of ur query, until turkey's regime collapses, cyprus won't be liberated. but we're working on it... doubt it'll happen any time soon, but keep ur fingers crossed.

[Get Real!]

Do you believe Cyprus will unify any time soon?

Cyprus will never "unify" as there is nothing to unify, but a 100% liberation of her occupied territoty is quite likely by the end of this year.

[All4114All]

Do you believe Cyprus will unify any time soon?

Cyprus will never "unify" as there is nothing to unify, but a 100% liberation of her occupied territoty is quite likely by the end of this year.

I think after Turkey elections because the pressure is mounting the only thing that will happen by the end of this year is some sort of an agreement for the seaports to be opened.

[Get Real!]

I’m certain that Turkey will crumble once her EU accession process has officially terminated.

There will be major internal upheaval against Erdogan for failing miserably, and a concurrent major shift in policy against her by Europe, and ultimately the US.

[JackDoe]

I've been reading this forum for some time now and have seen some posters claim "Divide and conquer"; "Kissinger"; "forced to sign 1960 agreement" etc.. etc... time and time again.

If you really believe this to be true then please answer the questions below.

Do any of you believe that:

a) unless the powers that got Cyprus into the trouble it's in in the first place will ever allow a solution unless it's in their favor?

b) it's up to Turkey to just up and leave and the island will simply unify henceforth without any incidence?

c) Turkey is just a puppet and will only leave when it's been told to at just the right time that suits the bigger players?

d) with what's going on in Egypt, Libya etc., Turkey's geographical position is more important than the unification of Cyprus?

sorry, jd. questions are bit too confusing... and poorly worded.

but to address the main thrust of ur query, until turkey's regime collapses, cyprus won't be liberated. but we're working on it... doubt it'll happen any time soon, but keep ur fingers crossed.

Seeing that everyone knows the story of Cyprus I was hoping that my questions would be understood without lengthy explanations.

It is claimed here and elsewhere that the first President of Cyprus was forced to sign an agreement that neither he not the Greek Cypriots agreed with.

It is also claimed that the UK, with the help of the USA, used the "divide and conquer" tactic to cause friction between the Greek Cypriots and the Turkish Cypriots.

It is further claimed that Turkey invaded/intervened (call it what you want) with the blessing of the two countries mentioned above.

So, if that is the case, could it be that Turkey is just a puppet doing the dirty work for her "masters"?

Can Turkey pull out of Cyprus without their permission?

Is it possible that because of Turkey's geographical importance the above mentioned countries do not want a solution in Cyprus to please Turkey thus letting Turkey stay in North Cyprus for as long as it suits them?

If Turkey did pull out, would the two communities go back to the days when they used to live side by side without any ill feelings against each other or will the killings start again?

[JackDoe]

Do you believe Cyprus will unify any time soon?

Cyprus will never "unify" as there is nothing to unify, but a 100% liberation of her occupied territoty is quite likely by the end of this year.

So the leaders of the two communities are not taking part in unification talks but rather in "liberation talks"?

[JackDoe]

Do you believe Cyprus will unify any time soon?

Cyprus will never "unify" as there is nothing to unify, but a 100% liberation of her occupied territoty is quite likely by the end of this year.

I think after Turkey elections because the pressure is mounting the only thing that will happen by the end of this year is some sort of an agreement for the seaports to be opened.

"pressure is mounting"? On whom, Turkey or Cyprus?

[JackDoe]

I’m certain that Turkey will crumble once her EU accession process has officially terminated.

Do you really think that the EU and the USA can afford to terminate Turkey's EU accession talks so soon with whats going on in Libya, Iran, Iraq etc?

Don't you think that they'll at least wait till it's all settled down?

There will be major internal upheaval against Erdogan for failing miserably,

If it's true that the majority of Turks are disgruntled by the EU and are turning away from the accession idea, what makes you think that there will be a major upheaval against Erdogan?

and a concurrent major shift in policy against her by Europe, and ultimately the US.

Sorry, but what you are saying sounds more like wishful thinking. Again, do you think that either the EU or the USA can afford to be hostile against Turkey when they need the bases in Turkey?

[vaughanwilliams]

As long as we have "nothing is agreed until everything is agreed", it will be very difficult to see a satisfactory end to this, for all concerned. A gradual process of normalisation might encourage the doubters on both sides.