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[B25]

JackD, if your questions or line of questioning were genuine, you would get genuine answers, but your intentions are otherwise under the disguise of 'I am only asking questions'.

We have heard and seen this tactic before, you have no real intention to learn but to antagonise so you cannot blame the responses you get.

Birkturk, is just a sad loser who does not want to hear the reality of the situation. He blames everyone else but himself and his lot. He is a self confessed TMT terrorists who takes delight in its actions.

Bananiot, is another lost cause, not because he has decided to give his ass to the turks, but he wants us to do the same. He demands a solution for solutions sake to appease his chums on the dark side. I wouldn't really take anything he says seriously, he is seriously deluded.

Most GCs would like a solution, but we want a just, honest and fair one, unlike the TCs/Turkey who want us to gift what we have to them so that they can have their discriminatory benefits over our human and democratics rights.

So, if you are serious about finding out, the internet has many sources to study and when you have become stuck by all means ask. otherwise you can expect more of the same.

Good day

[BirKibrisli]

JackD, if your questions or line of questioning were genuine, you would get genuine answers, but your intentions are otherwise under the disguise of 'I am only asking questions'.

We have heard and seen this tactic before, you have no real intention to learn but to antagonise so you cannot blame the responses you get.

Birkturk, is just a sad loser who does not want to hear the reality of the situation. He blames everyone else but himself and his lot. He is a self confessed TMT terrorists who takes delight in its actions.

Bananiot, is another lost cause, not because he has decided to give his ass to the turks, but he wants us to do the same. He demands a solution for solutions sake to appease his chums on the dark side. I wouldn't really take anything he says seriously, he is seriously deluded.

Most GCs would like a solution, but we want a just, honest and fair one, unlike the TCs/Turkey who want us to gift what we have to them so that they can have their discriminatory benefits over our human and democratics rights.

So, if you are serious about finding out, the internet has many sources to study and when you have become stuck by all means ask. otherwise you can expect more of the same.

Good day

What did I tell you,Jack? They have the audacity to talk about democracy and human rights,yet they cannot even bare the thought ,or tolerate, anybody questioning their 'reality'...Would you want to live in a country dominated by these individuals???

[Piratis]

Jack...this forum has a few resident fascists and bigots who like to play the man and not the ball...Unless you tell them what they want to hear (ie that everything is the fault of everybody else but the GCs,and the world owes them 'profound apologies'! )

Change "GCs" to "TCs", and that description fits you and other TC fascists perfectly.

This is what you said just a week ago:

the TCs have nothing to apologise for.They are innocent victims of historical events they had no control over

We accept our share of responsibility and while we suffered and continue to suffer from your crimes and illegalities against us, we are not seeking any revenge, and what we want is to correct this mess, by finally having in Cyprus what we should have been allowed to have from the begging: A free, normal, democratic state where all citizens are equal without racist discriminations.

On the other hand, not only you do not accept any responsibility, but you are looking for excuses to continue violating the human and democratic rights of the Cypriot people. This disrespect to democracy and human rights is what created the problem to begin with, and you are poised to continue acting in the exact same way as you did 50 years ago (and even earlier), and continue to create problems to Cyprus.

[Kikapu]

This idea that we will be eaten alive by Turkey s pure shit, dont forget we are all Turkish in origin in the north not Greek. I would rather become a Turk that a minority in a GC state.

That's just it. You can never become like a Turk, because you will always be a uncultured peasant foreigner to Turkey and on top of which, you will also be a minority amongst the Turks. You are going to get screwed coming and going. Keep the Vaseline handy, because you gonna need it. Be careful what you wish for, because you are not going to like it if it comes true.

[Hermes]

They have the audacity to talk about democracy and human rights,yet they cannot even bare the thought ,or tolerate, anybody questioning their 'reality'.

We have had our fill of Turkish reality. The division of our country, the ethnic cleansing of the Greek Cypriots from their ancestral homes, the acquiescence of T/Cs in the exploitation of our land and property, the cultural vandalism of our island's heritage and your attempts to give legitimacy to your crimes by questioning our reality.

Our reality is not up for debate. We refuse to play the Turkish game of equivalent realities. It doesn't work in the case of the Armenian genocide and it doesn't work in the case of Cyprus. No matter what Turkey says, a crime is a crime is a crime. Only in Turkey are the victims of ethnic cleansing blamed for the crimes committed against them.

Turkey's atrocities are real enough and your unending attempts to blame the G/Cs for the crimes inflicted upon them is beyond disgusting and verges on the psychotic.

You claim to be the voice of the T/Cs but you ignore their present reality. The reality is that the T/Cs endure contempt and face extinction at the hands of those forces that allegedly came to save them. The reality is that in order to survive on the island the T/Cs need the protection that only the free democratic Republic of Cyprus can offer them. We are your only hope for salvation. You'd better wise up to reality before it's too late.

[BirKibrisli]

Jack...this forum has a few resident fascists and bigots who like to play the man and not the ball...Unless you tell them what they want to hear (ie that everything is the fault of everybody else but the GCs,and the world owes them 'profound apologies'! )

Change "GCs" to "TCs", and that description fits you and other TC fascists perfectly.

This is what you said just a week ago:

the TCs have nothing to apologise for.They are innocent victims of historical events they had no control over

We accept our share of responsibility and while we suffered and continue to suffer from your crimes and illegalities against us, we are not seeking any revenge, and what we want is to correct this mess, by finally having in Cyprus what we should have been allowed to have from the begging: A free, normal, democratic state where all citizens are equal without racist discriminations.

On the other hand, not only you do not accept any responsibility, but you are looking for excuses to continue violating the human and democratic rights of the Cypriot people. This disrespect to democracy and human rights is what created the problem to begin with, and you are poised to continue acting in the exact same way as you did 50 years ago (and even earlier), and continue to create problems to Cyprus.

No,Piratis...You only pay lip service to your 'share of the responsibility'...You have no empathy or compassion for the TCs ,or for their plight during 1963-74... You have justifed your bitter hatred towards us by demonising us,by turning us into evil wrongdoers,to be able to continue your revision of history,and continuation of your efforts to totally dominate and oppress us...Your democracy and human right ploys are just that...You wouldn't be talking about it had you not be the overwhelming majority...But guess what? There will soon be as many Cyprus Turks in the North as there are Cyprus Greeks in the South,so Turkey might be convinced to allow democracy and majority rule free rein in Cyprus very soon...You know the saying...be careful what you wish for,you might just get it!

[JackDoe]

JackD, if your questions or line of questioning were genuine, you would get genuine answers, but your intentions are otherwise under the disguise of 'I am only asking questions'.

We have heard and seen this tactic before, you have no real intention to learn but to antagonise so you cannot blame the responses you get.

Birkturk, is just a sad loser who does not want to hear the reality of the situation. He blames everyone else but himself and his lot. He is a self confessed TMT terrorists who takes delight in its actions.

Bananiot, is another lost cause, not because he has decided to give his ass to the turks, but he wants us to do the same. He demands a solution for solutions sake to appease his chums on the dark side. I wouldn't really take anything he says seriously, he is seriously deluded.

Most GCs would like a solution, but we want a just, honest and fair one, unlike the TCs/Turkey who want us to gift what we have to them so that they can have their discriminatory benefits over our human and democratics rights.

So, if you are serious about finding out, the internet has many sources to study and when you have become stuck by all means ask. otherwise you can expect more of the same.

Good day

Your problem is that just because others have tried the tactics you moan about above you put everyone who come to this forum in the same basket. Then you go and call people "lost souls" just because they don't see things the way you want them to. Maybe they are not the problem, maybe it's you and people like you who are mistrustful and see questions for not what they are but twist and turn them around in your head until they make sense to you and only you so that you can write the tribe you write just for the sake of earning brownie points from those who are just as delusional as you are.

I came here to get the story out of the "horses mouth" and not from some internet site where it just maybe propaganda for one side or the other. It was a mistake because this site is no different, you only want people to hear and believe what you want then to hear and believe without giving the other side a chance to tell their story. And because I am from the UK you don't want to give me a chance at all.

Well, I may have not got the answers to my question but one thing I have learned here is that those who post here do not want a solution, at least not one that gives gives the other side more rights than they deserve, in your minds anyway.

In this forum you have one clown who lives in his own little dream world waiting for the "right" question so that he can reply with an "intelligent" and "right" answer. He is such an intelligent person that he is incapable of holding a conversation with anyone, so he believes. He is the perfect keyboard Rambo who has promoted himself to a higher military rank possible, just make sure he is not elected as your next president or you'll find what his kind of "democracy" will be like.

Then you've got people who keep saying "forget the past" and have a look at now and the future but one poster keeps talking about what happened 6 centuries ago and everyone agrees with him. Most of you agree with him that Cyprus was a Greek island and should be given back to the Greeks regardless of what the Turkish Cypriots wants...

You also got some who try their best to act polite but it is clear in their posts that they are only interested in spreading their own propaganda in their own "nice and friendly" way.

I did not come here to fight but you lot want nothing but a fight and brownie points.

"Lost souls" LOL, yeah, try finding yours.

[BirKibrisli]

They have the audacity to talk about democracy and human rights,yet they cannot even bare the thought ,or tolerate, anybody questioning their 'reality'.

We have had our fill of Turkish reality. The division of our country, the ethnic cleansing of the Greek Cypriots from their ancestral homes, the acquiescence of T/Cs in the exploitation of our land and property, the cultural vandalism of our island's heritage and your attempts to give legitimacy to your crimes by questioning our reality.

Our reality is not up for debate. We refuse to play the Turkish game of equivalent realities. It doesn't work in the case of the Armenian genocide and it doesn't work in the case of Cyprus. No matter what Turkey says, a crime is a crime is a crime. Only in Turkey are the victims of ethnic cleansing blamed for the crimes committed against them.

Turkey's atrocities are real enough and your unending attempts to blame the G/Cs for the crimes inflicted upon them is beyond disgusting and verges on the psychotic.

You claim to be the voice of the T/Cs but you ignore their present reality. The reality is that the T/Cs endure contempt and face extinction at the hands of those forces that allegedly came to save them. The reality is that in order to survive on the island the T/Cs need the protection that only the free democratic Republic of Cyprus can offer them. We are your only hope for salvation. You'd better wise up to reality before it's too late.

You havent been reading my recent posts carefully, Hermes...I have congratulated you on your pyrric victory...With your help Turkey has managed to turn 120,000 Turkish Cypriots into 600,000 Cyprus Turks...The game is over...That is my reality now...Turkish Cypriots have been ethnically cleansed from Cyprus by Turkey with your assistance and blessing...Do not dare to hope now that there will be any good coming to you,in the recent remonstrations in the trnc...What you are seeing are the final rites,the funeral rites of the TCs,and the birth of Cyprus Turks out of the ashes of your Enosis with Greece dream...

[JackDoe]

JackD, if your questions or line of questioning were genuine, you would get genuine answers, but your intentions are otherwise under the disguise of 'I am only asking questions'.

We have heard and seen this tactic before, you have no real intention to learn but to antagonise so you cannot blame the responses you get.

Birkturk, is just a sad loser who does not want to hear the reality of the situation. He blames everyone else but himself and his lot. He is a self confessed TMT terrorists who takes delight in its actions.

Bananiot, is another lost cause, not because he has decided to give his ass to the turks, but he wants us to do the same. He demands a solution for solutions sake to appease his chums on the dark side. I wouldn't really take anything he says seriously, he is seriously deluded.

Most GCs would like a solution, but we want a just, honest and fair one, unlike the TCs/Turkey who want us to gift what we have to them so that they can have their discriminatory benefits over our human and democratics rights.

So, if you are serious about finding out, the internet has many sources to study and when you have become stuck by all means ask. otherwise you can expect more of the same.

Good day

What did I tell you,Jack? They have the audacity to talk about democracy and human rights,yet they cannot even bare the thought ,or tolerate, anybody questioning their 'reality'...Would you want to live in a country dominated by these individuals???

I wouldn't even want to talk with these people let alone live with them. I'll let them live in their own delusional little world and and see if I can find others elsewhere who live on this planet and know what they are talking about.

Good luck dealing with these .............................. (fill in the dotted lines yourself).

I'm out of here.

[Hermes]

There will soon be as many Cyprus Turks in the North as there are Cyprus Greeks in the South,so Turkey might be convinced to allow democracy and majority rule free rein in Cyprus very soon...You know the saying...be careful what you wish for,you might just get it!

What makes you think the ROC would give voting rights to non-ROC citizens? How on earth do you think the settlers would survive economically in a united Cyprus? Where will they live once the G/Cs reclaim their properties in a future settlement? You are living in a fantasy world. Your own community is on the streets protesting Turkey's policies of dumping its citizens in the north while you think this is a stick to beat G/Cs with. You really are beyond the pale sometimes.