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Postby B25 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:34 am

mem101 wrote:VP, the north will never be annexed to Turkey. Aside from the EU, the UN, the whole world, recognising that the RoC's sovereignty extends to the whole of Cyprus, TCs do not want to be a part of Turkey anyway. At least that much can be determined from the recent protests. Turkey could not annex the north even if she wanted to without further violating international law and alienating herself from her allies.

totally correct, good post. Probably the most honest on any TC has posted here, well done. But you may have made new enemies now, VP, Bir, DTA and a couple more will dislike you now.
Way to go mem.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:35 am

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Even taking that into account TCs would never accept living as minority under GC rule, they would rather accept the Turks. How else can i make you understand how strongly they feel about this issue, if they wanted such a set up they could have it today by moving south.

Are you saying they would be UNABLE to blend in with the rest of the Cypriots and get on with life?


If allowed to do so no problem but with your track record and numerical advantage we dont stand a chance soon to be treated as second class citizens and discriminated for being a TC, we do not trust you.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:40 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Even taking that into account TCs would never accept living as minority under GC rule, they would rather accept the Turks. How else can i make you understand how strongly they feel about this issue, if they wanted such a set up they could have it today by moving south.

Are you saying they would be UNABLE to blend in with the rest of the Cypriots and get on with life?


If allowed to do so no problem but with your track record and numerical advantage we dont stand a chance soon to be treated as second class citizens and discriminated for being a TC, we do not trust you.

Oh right, so your fear (stance) is based on the presumption that the TC community will be FORCED to turn political to stay afloat…. right?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:43 am

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Even taking that into account TCs would never accept living as minority under GC rule, they would rather accept the Turks. How else can i make you understand how strongly they feel about this issue, if they wanted such a set up they could have it today by moving south.

Are you saying they would be UNABLE to blend in with the rest of the Cypriots and get on with life?


If allowed to do so no problem but with your track record and numerical advantage we dont stand a chance soon to be treated as second class citizens and discriminated for being a TC, we do not trust you.

Oh right, so your fear (stance) is based on the presumption that the TC community will be FORCED to turn political to stay afloat…. right?


No the majority being the GCs can and will use this to their advantage to demote and discriminate against the TCs, thats why we require a structure that will not all this to happen and guarantee a BBF with political equality of the two states.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:49 am

I can’t take this debate any further as Kurupetos has destroyed my argument and given credence to yours with a single line!

Catch you later people... :?
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Postby kurupetos » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:52 am

Get Real! wrote:I can’t take this debate any further as Kurupetos has destroyed my argument and given credence to yours with a single line!

Catch you later people... :?


Wank off yourself and come back later. VP will be waiting for you. :wink:
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Postby boulio » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:07 am

Even if we returned 50% 1 seat will be the end of our effective say to no say full stop, to risky no thanks.

If Turkey wanted the whole island they would have taken it in 1974 and 37 years proves you do not know what you are talking about, even knowing Turkey has clearly stated many times that of forced they will always choose the TRNC over the EU, time you realized this fact.


if you returned 50% or a ratio of 80/20 no g/c would move to the north or at least not in any significant numbers because with that kind of reduction i would say 75% of the refugees would have returned to there properties in a g/c state.the ones that dont would most likely use there properties in the north as a second home or sell there porperty or exchange it with t/c property in the south.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:31 pm

B25 wrote:
mem101 wrote:VP, the north will never be annexed to Turkey. Aside from the EU, the UN, the whole world, recognising that the RoC's sovereignty extends to the whole of Cyprus, TCs do not want to be a part of Turkey anyway. At least that much can be determined from the recent protests. Turkey could not annex the north even if she wanted to without further violating international law and alienating herself from her allies.

totally correct, good post. Probably the most honest on any TC has posted here, well done. But you may have made new enemies now, VP, Bir, DTA and a couple more will dislike you now.
Way to go mem.


Goes to show how little you really know about us...
Mem is talking perfect sense..And he is right,the the TCs do not want to be a part of Turkey...But they want to be a despised minority in the RoC even less...And with people like you and the rest of the little fascist bigots about who can blame them...
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Postby B25 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:04 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
B25 wrote:
mem101 wrote:VP, the north will never be annexed to Turkey. Aside from the EU, the UN, the whole world, recognising that the RoC's sovereignty extends to the whole of Cyprus, TCs do not want to be a part of Turkey anyway. At least that much can be determined from the recent protests. Turkey could not annex the north even if she wanted to without further violating international law and alienating herself from her allies.

totally correct, good post. Probably the most honest on any TC has posted here, well done. But you may have made new enemies now, VP, Bir, DTA and a couple more will dislike you now.
Way to go mem.


Goes to show how little you really know about us...
Mem is talking perfect sense..And he is right,the the TCs do not want to be a part of Turkey...But they want to be a despised minority in the RoC even less...And with people like you and the rest of the little fascist bigots about who can blame them...


Hark who's talking, have you looked in the mirror lately to see the racist tmt terrorist, who wishes segregation and partition. You and VP want to get a room, you can do yourselves silly till the cows come home.

Your ridiculous demands for a few thousand TCs over the vast majority of the Island, jesus, it takes the biscuit. Antifon is right about your guys, no wonder you don't like the guy, he speaks alot of sense where you lot at concerned.

On yer bike mister!
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Postby antifon » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:53 pm

B25 wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
B25 wrote:
mem101 wrote:VP, the north will never be annexed to Turkey. Aside from the EU, the UN, the whole world, recognising that the RoC's sovereignty extends to the whole of Cyprus, TCs do not want to be a part of Turkey anyway. At least that much can be determined from the recent protests. Turkey could not annex the north even if she wanted to without further violating international law and alienating herself from her allies.

totally correct, good post. Probably the most honest on any TC has posted here, well done. But you may have made new enemies now, VP, Bir, DTA and a couple more will dislike you now.
Way to go mem.


Goes to show how little you really know about us...
Mem is talking perfect sense..And he is right,the the TCs do not want to be a part of Turkey...But they want to be a despised minority in the RoC even less...And with people like you and the rest of the little fascist bigots about who can blame them...


Hark who's talking, have you looked in the mirror lately to see the racist tmt terrorist, who wishes segregation and partition. You and VP want to get a room, you can do yourselves silly till the cows come home.

Your ridiculous demands for a few thousand TCs over the vast majority of the Island, jesus, it takes the biscuit. Antifon is right about your guys, no wonder you don't like the guy, he speaks alot of sense where you lot at concerned.

On yer bike mister!



Just noticed your vote of confidence. I once tried to make an appeal as to why tCypriots are largely irrelevant in as far as our future is concerned & why we need a paradigm shift, especially those of us who wish to live as before, but with fairness and respect of democracy. Here it is:
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2011/01/to- ... heart.html

Judging how members of my own immediate family [I used to be the black sheep] have switched 100% away from being sympathetic to a divisive BBF solution, after realizing the small print, I am 100% that RoC will be the eventual solution, with changes which we will dictate. tCypriots, as nice or not as they may be, have been left with absolutely no other choice. And Turkey certainly has none but to butt out.

Actually, they have the choice of leaving. If they choose to leave Cyprus altogether because they cannot trust us, well, I personally won't be shedding many tears. Perhaps on the first day a couple or three. After 40 years of hypocrisy and exploitation I am afraid that is the best I will manage.

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