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[Hermes]

No it was your enosis dream which triggered off the current situation and guarantees the embargoes are enforced on the TRNC. Do you understand that you are cutting off your nose despite your face?

Actually the embargoes are a direct consequence of the Turkish invasion and continuing illegal occupation. Once the Turkish occupation is removed then the embargoes will end. It's quite simple really.

The protests are about more money and keep the life style they are used to.

True. However, Turkish Cypriots also perceive that their existence is now threatened by the policies of Ankara and the colonization of the north. Thus for the first time, they are turning their attention to Turkey. One reason for this is the economic situation, since Ankara's policy has disrupted the economy in the occupied territories and created a parasitic system that is maintained by money from Turkey. The colonization, occupation and domination of Ankara is now seen now as an existential problem for the Turkish Cypriot community. You could say that T/Cs have finally woken up to reality. It's about time.

Enough being the major word here, GCs are not clever enough to ever find a solution.

The question is whether Turkey is clever enough to seek a solution that is acceptable to Greek Cypriots and thus unlock her EU accession process. The alternatives for Turkey are not very encouraging. The G/Cs can only do so much to help Turkey come to its senses. The rest is up to the Turks themselves.

[humanist]

Yes we acknowledge we have lost a war to Turkey of 70 million people and we have lost our lands. However, the GC's do not have to do anything other than seek to the UN for protection. Turkey at this moment stands to loose much more and is loosing much more that it occupies Cyprus because she will not get into the EU with this record of violating human rights.

[Viewpoint]

Yes we acknowledge we have lost a war to Turkey of 70 million people and we have lost our lands. However, the GC's do not have to do anything other than seek to the UN for protection. Turkey at this moment stands to loose much more and is loosing much more that it occupies Cyprus because she will not get into the EU with this record of violating human rights.

Do you think they give a damn?

[ZoC]

Do you understand that you are cutting off your nose despite your face?

speak english....

the expression is:

cut off your nose TO SPITE your face.... (ie. recklessly do something in revenge which is damaging to yourself)

ur malapropism is senseless.... how can you cut off your nose DESPITE your face?

this clearly illustrates ur inability to see beyond ur nose (despite ur face).

[Viewpoint]

Hermes

Actually the embargoes are a direct consequence of the Turkish invasion and continuing illegal occupation. Once the Turkish occupation is removed then the embargoes will end. It's quite simple really.

And who gave the Turks the opportunity to intervene and reject any plan put before them to ensure the TA stays. The TA army will only leave if a solution is agreed quite simple really but of course you cannot see it.

True. However, Turkish Cypriots also perceive that their existence is now threatened by the policies of Ankara and the colonization of the north. Thus for the first time, they are turning their attention to Turkey. One reason for this is the economic situation, since Ankara's policy has disrupted the economy in the occupied territories and created a parasitic system that is maintained by money from Turkey. The colonization, occupation and domination of Ankara is now seen now as an existential problem for the Turkish Cypriot community. You could say that T/Cs have finally woken up to reality. It's about time.

A few protests do not maketh a rift between the TRNC and Turkey, plus you GCs claim we are part of Turkey so he financial support is not different from what she does ford any other part of Turkey.

The question is whether Turkey is clever enough to seek a solution that is acceptable to Greek Cypriots and thus unlock her EU accession process. The alternatives for Turkey are not very encouraging. The G/Cs can only do so much to help Turkey come to its senses. The rest is up to the Turks themselves.

Turkey has stated many times she will always choose the TRNC over the EU if forced to make that choice plus I do not see a rush by Turkey to enter the EU.

[ZoC]

Turkey has stated many times she will always choose the TRNC over the EU if forced to make that choice plus I do not see a rush by Turkey to enter the EU.

how humiliating for turkey... going along with wotever they're forced to do.

[Get Real!]

Turkey has stated many times she will always choose the TRNC over the EU if forced to make that choice plus I do not see a rush by Turkey to enter the EU.

They're bluffing of course in the hope that they'll get a better deal!

You should ask yourself… how can such a small territory, on an island next door to the mainland be more useful/valuable than all that the EU has to offer?

[Viewpoint]

Turkey has stated many times she will always choose the TRNC over the EU if forced to make that choice plus I do not see a rush by Turkey to enter the EU.

They're bluffing of course in the hope that they'll get a better deal!

You should ask yourself… how can such a small territory, on an island next door to the mainland be more useful/valuable than all that the EU has to offer?

Thats a bond you will never understand.

[Hermes]

And who gave the Turks the opportunity to intervene and reject any plan put before them to ensure the TA stays. The TA army will only leave if a solution is agreed quite simple really but of course you cannot see it.

The international embargos are a direct result of the illegal invasion and occupation of Cyprus. Blaming the victims of the occupation for "provoking" the invasion is like blaming a rape victim for "provoking" her rapist. It is obscene, but not surprising coming from a Turk.

A few protests do not maketh a rift between the TRNC and Turkey, plus you GCs claim we are part of Turkey so he financial support is not different from what she does ford any other part of Turkey.

The rift is between T/Cs and the illegal settlers and between T/Cs and Turkey. You must be blind if you haven't noticed it. Why do you think the protesters called it a "survival" march? Why do T/Cs feel their survival is at stake? And why are they blaming Turkey for it? The clue lies in your reply that Turkey regards the north like "any other part of Turkey". That is what the protesters are afraid of. Even you admit that the "TRNC" is a sham. How do you think that makes the majority of T/Cs feel? Think about it...

Turkey has stated many times she will always choose the TRNC over the EU if forced to make that choice plus I do not see a rush by Turkey to enter the EU.

Because its accession process is frozen! Turkey cannot rush into anything until it withdraws from Cyprus. Turkey cannot keep its forces in Cyprus without damaging its long-term economic, diplomatic and strategic interests. G/Cs are hoping that Turkey isn't as stupid as you think it is.

[ZoC]

Turkey has stated many times she will always choose the TRNC over the EU if forced to make that choice plus I do not see a rush by Turkey to enter the EU.

They're bluffing of course in the hope that they'll get a better deal!

You should ask yourself… how can such a small territory, on an island next door to the mainland be more useful/valuable than all that the EU has to offer?

Thats a bond you will never understand.

by holding onto the latrine turkey cuts off her nose despite her face, gr! something u'll never understand.