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[Sid]

Hi! One question came to my mind:

Why are the children/grandchildren/great-grandchildren and so on of the refugees considered refugees? I think that real refugees are those who had to pass through all these miserable and tragic events of invasion and were pushed away from their homeland and cannot come back there. So, then are the refugees’ children and the grandchildren who were born on the Government controlled areas and were not really pushed away from their homeland fairly called refugees? Isn’t their homeland there where they were born?

I read an article where it was said that in some years (I do not remember how many years exactly) the refugees will make up more than 80% of the population. Isn’t it worrying? In some years Cyprus will become an island of refugees!

I heard that some of so-called refugees own hotels and lead a far from bad life on the free territories. Don’t you think that some of them just use their status to get financial assistance from the government?

[Piratis]

So, then are the refugees’ children and the grandchildren who were born on the Government controlled areas and were not really pushed away from their homeland fairly called refugees?

These children grandchildren etc are refugees because their homeland, the land their ancestors have lived for 3500 years, is forcefully denied to them because of their race. If they try to retun there they will face the exact same cruelty the Turks exibited when they forcefully removed 200.000 people from their homes in order to perform ethnic cleaning in 1/3rd of Cyprus.

I heard that some of so-called refugees own hotels and lead a far from bad life on the free territories. Don’t you think that some of them just use their status to get financial assistance from the government?

What you heard is about a tiny minority of refugees. The great majority of them live in refugee housing or in conditions much worst from those they would have enjoyed if their properties were not stolen from them.

[Sid]

Don’t you think it’s unfair for the real refugees who had to run away and to start their life from the very beginning, to be equalized with those who were born on the free territories and don’t know what an invasion is and did not have to start from zero?

And another thing: are ok with that fact that in some decades there will be only refugees?

[gabaston]

is forcefully denied to them because of their race

Race???

No pirates this is not so – it is denied you because of the actions of your gc government, extreme groups, and your silent majority during 60-74 when many acts of extreme violence and murder were committed by your against turkish cypriots as you well know, and which have thankfully noe ended. You are denied because of your peoples’ parents’ and grandparents’ belief that "the only good turk is a dead turk", the slogan your people were so fond of during the attempted ethnic cleansing of turks from cyprus.


Sid, sonds british and if so like sid there are thousands of brits in the north. They are welcome, if we were racist they would not be.

In case you haven’t quite sussed it sid is referring to the colourful language you guys use whenever discussing the cyprob. Cant you guys take the hint. The world now questions your rhetoric. stop speaking with fork tongue and maybe they will start believing you again.

Refugees?

Have those who fled greece from the german occupation during ww2 ceased being refugees yet?

[Main_Source]

Right gabaston, you continually use the same crappy excuses to try and legalise your theivery.

Like every single refugee that was forced off their land was guilty. Hey, how about your leaders who blew up your own buildings to blame it on the GC, in order to get into the position where Turkey could invade??

Remember that separation was a plan way back in the 50's...and it eventually came into fruition for the murderous bastards you call your Turkish government.

[gabaston]

ms

crappy excuses

you again shoot your own foot, im suprised youre still standing -
my post was exactly outling the use of your colourful language - you can believe what you wish. they may be crappy to you but the whole world is begining to see the reality of the cyprus problem.

[gabaston]

Like every single refugee that was forced off their land was guilty

no i never said this - you did right?

what i say is that the silent majority are guilty of allowing the perpetuation of attempted ethnic cleansing by voting for a govt which supported such - prove me wrong

[gabaston]

ms

like i said - the turkish military machine is massive they have plans for everything - i bet they even got plans for the invasion of and defence from china, russia and the usa. they r an army and that's what armies plan - they dont wait for something to kick off, then spend two months planning.

didnt your govt have such plans - what was akritas? an invitation to a cocktail party?

[ChomskyFan]

It's not actually as 'massive' as Turks like to think, in reality, the vast Turkish Land Army is poorly trained, underfunded and lacks even the most basic equipment, it continues to maintain such a massive Land Army because it offers realtively low wages (in terms of City Averages) to poor rural villagers in areas that percieve low wages in City Averages terms to be high wages in poor rural areas, if Turkey is to economically develop it will no longer be able to maintain such a gigantic Army due to wage pressure.

Ottoman Historians, Philosophers, Mathematicians of note? None. Mongoloid Barbarism at it's best.

[gabaston]

MS

ive attempted addressing your concerns, how about you address mine?

When do those who fled greece from the germans and came to cyprus stop being refugees?