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[bg_turk]

What if a refugee father marries with a non-refugee mother? Is the child still considered a refugee? What if only one grandparent is a refugee? Isn't the refugee population actually growing because of the intermixed marriage between refugees and non-refugees?

[Agios Amvrosios]

Your what if questions aren't productive. It must be noted that established refugee camps around the world now house 4th generation refugees from a range of 20th century wars.

The mass exodus of Greek Cypriot refugees who left Cyprus for overseas after the ethnic cleansing campaign have no where to go in Cyprus. The concept of second,third and nth refugees is not new.

Also a refugee who has money is still a refugee. Some of the most successful people in the world have been refugees. In Australia refugees run the show.3 in the top 10. One time richest man in the world ,Aristotle Onassis was a refugee. The refugee experience is what drives these people.

The refugee experience is not limited to the immediate period of living in emergency tent accomodation in second hand Unicef clothing.

[Main_Source]

a Refugee is someone who is forced away from their home, simple.

As for Gabaston, I think he is trying to hide the fact that 200,000 GC were made refugees. Maybe down the line, he wish's to hide the fact that the invasion happened...a classic Turkish trait. Look at how much they deny the Armenian genocide.

[Main_Source]

answer a question for once in my life? How long have u known me? lol

You cannot compare refugee's from WW2 to the refugee's of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus, because to my knowledge, there are no Nazi's still occupying those homes.

As far as i know, I am not shooting myself in the foot lol. Is that just a stupid statement you came out with for the sake of it.

I dont know what your talkin about with the admin...

but as far as i know, your free to leave the website to which he started. After all, it is like your a guest of his, if you take up residence in his website. Or do u wanna steal this website too?

[bg_turk]

a Refugee is someone who is forced away from their home, simple.

Yes, I agree. And someone who is not forced away from their home is not a refugee regardless of the refugee status of their parents.

[Main_Source]

No they ARE refugee's, because naturally the the homes of first generation refugee's would be passed onto their children.

People like you take in all the propagande bullshit the Turkish government tells you and believes it. It really makes me laugh how there is a blatent coralation between Turkish government views of trouble with Armenians, Greeks, Kurds, Arabs, etc...and you all seem to think Turkey is always innocent.

[bg_turk]

Turkey is far from innocent, but so are you.

[cypezokyli]

when east and west germany reunified, persoons who fled from the east in order to avoid the opression of the system, were given their houses back in the 1990s. even if that meant that the person who lived in the house was no "conqueror" and it was absolutely not his fault because his hause was given to him by the state.
just an example....

in any case... it is difficult to draw the line when someone siezes to be a refuggee

i dont believe that their is going to be any plan that will allow the kyrenia refuggees to return to their homes. thats the whole meaning of bi - zonal that we accepted.
it is sad. but we accepted it.

[Main_Source]

Turkey is far from innocent, but so are you.

If you mean ME is a Greek Cypriot, then yes I know people who were prominent in my community made some mistakes in Cyprus in the past...but the EXACT same mistakes were made by TC leaders too....and i mean EXACT. TC leaders did just as much as GC leaders in order to adjitate and create violance, many would say to the point where Turkey would have an excuse to invade...because that was their plan since the 50's.

The difference with is that I can admit to GC mistakes...which is far from most TC can do on this website, with regards to TC mistakes. Most TC here seem to theink that the Turks in Cyprus were simply retaliating, which in many cases was not true.

At the end of the day, I want what is THE RIGHT THING in Cyprus and for all refugees to get their land back and all Cypriots to have equal rights with a proper democracy. Unfortunatley, such TC that I have seen on this website seem to want special rights for themselves in Cyprus, which oppresses the rights of GC. When we ask why they want this these rights, they say it is because of GC violance in the past (even thuogh a huge percentage of the refugees commited no violance toward TC)...what they fail to admit is that it was TC who also created the air of violance. Therefore meaning that GC should exclusively suffer for something both communitiies did wrong.

[Agios Amvrosios]

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dont believe that their is going to be any plan that will allow the kyrenia refuggees to return to their homes. thats the whole meaning of bi - zonal that we accepted.
it is sad. but we accepted it.

Cypezokyli unless the only plan concievable is one where the refugees of Kyrenia are allowed to return home. This is an absolute minimum requirement. after that point you can negotiate and horse trade what ever you want.