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[denizaksulu]

If noone knows the topographical area of Karavas and Agios Giorgios, if those
Artillery units were on Pentadaktylos and the anti tank units in their positions the Turks would have left their brethren that survived the landing on these two beaches, and hightailed it back to Mersin, Even someone with a rifle on top of the hill overlooking six mile beach which is less then 100 metres away could of easily taken out a company of turks.....

That scenario is reminiscent of the Anzac landings at gallipoli. Total disaster and a waste of young lives - those poor Anzacs, gun fodder for the British and allies.

And from that day on they took up sheep shagging for solace...

[Paphitis]

If noone knows the topographical area of Karavas and Agios Giorgios, if those
Artillery units were on Pentadaktylos and the anti tank units in their positions the Turks would have left their brethren that survived the landing on these two beaches, and hightailed it back to Mersin, Even someone with a rifle on top of the hill overlooking six mile beach which is less then 100 metres away could of easily taken out a company of turks.....

That scenario is reminiscent of the Anzac landings at gallipoli. Total disaster and a waste of young lives - those poor Anzacs, gun fodder for the British and allies.

The scenario is not at all similar!

The ANZACs (Australian New Zealand Army Corps) was British led as was the entire Dardanelles Operation at Galipoli and Cape Helles. The Australian New Zealand Army Copse was formed from the Australian Imperial Forces and the New Zealand Expeditionary Force and formed part of the British led Mediterranean Expeditionary Force which included French, Irish, Indian, Gurkha, as well as British Troops. The ANZACs landed at Gallipoli, and all other allied troops landed further south at Cape Helles. Later, British troops landed at Suvla, which was 4 miles north of ANZAC Cove.

The ANZACs did in fact land at the wrong beach, but they did eventually overrun Ottoman Positions and they did in fact take control of the high ground forming a secure beachhead for the second ANZAC landing.

Australian and New Zealand Forces were not cannon fodder for the Brits as the Australian Imperial Forces, the predecessor of the Australian Defence Force (ADF) was completely sovereign as Australia achieved nationhood in 1901. For the sake of some interesting trivia which you may not be aware of, the Royal Australian Air Force (part of the ADF) is the second oldest Air Force in the world behind the Royal Air Foirce (RAF). The ADF has a very proud history, and the ANZAC tradition is the foundation of the ADF and the entire nation, as Galipoli was the first war where Australians fought and died under their own flag!

Here is a rare film of the ANZACs after they took the beach!





Here is good video showing the Australian Periscope Rifle which Australian Snipers used in the trenches.

[denizaksulu]

If noone knows the topographical area of Karavas and Agios Giorgios, if those
Artillery units were on Pentadaktylos and the anti tank units in their positions the Turks would have left their brethren that survived the landing on these two beaches, and hightailed it back to Mersin, Even someone with a rifle on top of the hill overlooking six mile beach which is less then 100 metres away could of easily taken out a company of turks.....

That scenario is reminiscent of the Anzac landings at gallipoli. Total disaster and a waste of young lives - those poor Anzacs, gun fodder for the British and allies.

The scenario is not at all similar!

The ANZACs (Australian New Zealand Army Corps) was British led as was the entire Dardanelles Operation at Galipoli and Cape Helles. The Australian New Zealand Army Copse was formed from the Australian Imperial Forces and the New Zealand Expeditionary Force and formed part of the British led Mediterranean Expeditionary Force which included French, Irish, Indian, Gurkha, as well as British Troops. The ANZACs landed at Gallipoli, and all other allied troops landed further south at Cape Helles. Later, British troops landed at Suvla, which was 4 miles north of ANZAC Cove.

The ANZACs did in fact land at the wrong beach, but they did eventually overrun Ottoman Positions and they did in fact take control of the high ground forming a secure beachhead for the second ANZAC landing.

Australian and New Zealand Forces were not cannon fodder for the Brits as the Australian Imperial Forces, the predecessor of the Australian Defence Force (ADF) was completely sovereign as Australia achieved nationhood in 1901. For the sake of some interesting trivia which you may not be aware of, the Royal Australian Air Force (part of the ADF) is the second oldest Air Force in the world behind the Royal Air Foirce (RAF). The ADF has a very proud history, and the ANZAC tradition is the foundation of the ADF and the entire nation, as Galipoli was the first war where Australians fought and died under their own flag!

Here is a rare film of the ANZACs after they took the beach!





Here is good video showing the Australian Periscope Rifle which Australian Snipers used in the trenches.

I was referring to the landings at certain coves which led to nowhere with the heights held by the Turkish forces. They were trapped or a better word, they were next to useless till they had to -at great loss of life and bravery they could extricate themselves. I do not deny their bravery. At the danger of getting my x,y, and z beaches mixed up, one of the landings was at the wrong place. I am sure you have read the whole history of the landings and am sure you know what I am talking about.

They were still gun fodder, and after the failure they declared it a diversionary deployement of troops. Which also led to Churchills dismissal.

[denizaksulu]

Paphitis phile mou you missed this one:





5min 12sec at 'V' beach. Dublin and Munster Fusilers landing.

[supporttheunderdog]

And from that day on they took up sheep shagging for solace...

I'll leave it to others to judge if they consider this remark added anything constructive to the debate, and/or to form their own views about the sense of humour and /or intelligence of GR.

[denizaksulu]

And from that day on they took up sheep shagging for solace...

I'll leave it to others to judge if they consider this remark added anything constructive to the debate, and/or to form their own views about the sense of humour and /or intelligence of GR.

I am in full support of your response. GR just cant help it. He thinks he is being funny.

[Get Real!]

And from that day on they took up sheep shagging for solace...

I'll leave it to others to judge if they consider this remark added anything constructive to the debate, and/or to form their own views about the sense of humour and /or intelligence of GR.

Just take this bone and be gone ---> 8==8

Atta boy!