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[Get Real!]

what did the echr say can you provide some details becuase i dont think they said what you are saying.

. Posting from a mobile so can't find it now, it said something about can't force people out of their homes now as it would create new wrong to try and rectify past wrongs.

Anyone else sick to the stomach with Turkish Cypriot hypocrisy?

Dude, don't rub me up the wrong way... you'll HATE ME if you do!

[DTA]

disagree here i can understanand for a joint eu/un gurantee for cyrus but not a individual country,turkey within nato can look out for the interest of the north not on her own.

This is major red line here for tcs we would only trust turkey for this, and as we would be taking away turkeys right to intervene in the south state surely that is a compromise?

[quattro]

disagree here i can understanand for a joint eu/un gurantee for cyrus but not a individual country,turkey within nato can look out for the interest of the north not on her own.

This is major red line here for tcs we would only trust turkey for this, and as we would be taking away turkeys right to intervene in the south state surely that is a compromise?

No DTA no rights for TR OR GR on this Island what so ever THIS IS ANOTHER MAJOR RED LINE

[boulio]

dta IM SORRY YOU FEEL LIKE that but tings have greatly changed in the last 50 years from cyprus creation as a nation till now one and major her ascesion into the EU.Im sorry but to be honest technically there should be no guranteor or mixed force on the island at all.the island and nation of cyprus untied should provide her own gurantees and saftey for her citizens greek turkish armenian latin and so on and within the framework of the eu i thinks she does.The omly reason i use the nato/eu force set up is ti nclude turkey within the security blanket of cyprus to ease t/c concerns but im sorry you cant give turkey unilateral intervention rights in cypus .

[Filitsa]

Antifon you know nothing of tcs nor of kurds did you know there was a Kurdish primeminister of turkey?

As for 63 that is terrible date for tcs - the 13 amendments were the beginning of 11 years of hell for the tcs. Which was as unfair as 74 was for your community.

So again and for infinity NO

Hi, DTA,

I wouldn't exactly call the late Ozal a Kurd. He was only part Kurdish and born, raised, and educated in Turkey.

Regards.

[DTA]

what did the echr say can you provide some details becuase i dont think they said what you are saying.

. Posting from a mobile so can't find it now, it said something about can't force people out of their homes now as it would create new wrong to try and rectify past wrongs.

Anyone else sick to the stomach with Turkish Cypriot hypocrisy?

Dude, don't rub me up the wrong way... you'll HATE ME if you do!

Wind your neck in `i was from memory answering his question if i got it wrong then it was not intentional.

[DTA]

disagree here i can understanand for a joint eu/un gurantee for cyrus but not a individual country,turkey within nato can look out for the interest of the north not on her own.

This is major red line here for tcs we would only trust turkey for this, and as we would be taking away turkeys right to intervene in the south state surely that is a compromise?

No DTA no rights for TR OR GR on this Island what so ever THIS IS ANOTHER MAJOR RED LINE

I understand this feeling but could you suggest a compromise that the Tcs would be likely to accept1

[DTA]

[quote="boulio"]dta IM SORRY YOU FEEL LIKE that but tings have greatly changed in the last 50 years from cyprus creation as a nation till now one and major her ascesion into the EU.Im sorry but to be honest technically there should be no guranteor or mixed force on the island at all.the island and nation of cyprus untied should provide her own gurantees and saftey for her citizens greek turkish armenian latin and so on and within the framework of the eu i thinks she does.The omly reason i use the nato/eu force set up is ti nclude turkey within the security blanket of cyprus to ease t/c concerns but im sorry you cant give turkey unilateral intervention rights in cypus .[/quote

I understand this feeling but could you suggest a compromise that the Tcs would be likely to accept

[DTA]

Antifon you know nothing of tcs nor of kurds did you know there was a Kurdish primeminister of turkey?

As for 63 that is terrible date for tcs - the 13 amendments were the beginning of 11 years of hell for the tcs. Which was as unfair as 74 was for your community.

So again and for infinity NO

Hi, DTA,

I wouldn't exactly call the late Ozal a Kurd. He was only part Kurdish and born, raised, and educated in Turkey.

Regards.

He was part Kurdish you are right but was one of the most respected priministers of Turkey and was generally loved so being Kurdish (or part Kurdish did not matter. Turkey and Kurdish relations are a lot more complicated then our friend Antifon is trying to poutray for example only a very very small minority of kurdish people in Turkey vot for seperatist kurdish parties.

[DTA]

what are your thoughts AND points of a fair bbf DTA?

that is a complex question, but I will give as often is the case here an over smplistic answer: i would say if I was not trying to negotiate just (as you never show your hand when you negotiate) trying to be fair:
Give varosha, the buffer zone and amorfo to the gc administration, that hopefully will allow one half of the displaced gcs to return that is based on the figure of 150000,

Karpaz also or no deal

Karpas will be used to rehouse the Tcs that now live in Mourfo, and have an area that the Tc part of the federation will have to redevelop just as the Gc part of the fed will have Mourfo and varosha boosting both parts of the fed with an economical insentive