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[boulio]

DTA concerning property and voting rights in the north,recent survey have been published that most people will not move into the north after a solution.i think it was like 10% said they would.so if say after land adjustemnts 180,000/2= 90,000 refugees about 10,000 might move back.

[boulio]

what do you think about security and guranntees?

i have always liked a idea of a joint eu/nato force(a united cyprus would join nato)with about a brigade stregnth on the island of 3,000 men.six battalions of different ethnicites of the eu/nato.

greek,turkish,cypriot, and three other countries.all under a eu/nato commander that can be from any eu/nato country.britsh base would no longer exsisit and .25% of the island to house this force.23 sq km base were dikelia is now.

[DTA]

Only problem would be if the homes were given to Turkish nationals as there would not be land in the south to exchange (either swap or in terms of monatRy value) if this happens the turkey will have to compensates. Likewise the roc will compensate for tcs with land in the south that did not exchange under the trnc system.

[boulio]

settlers where do you stand on them?christofias offered 50,000 to stay for humantarian reasons.

Only problem would be if the homes were given to Turkish nationals as there would not be land in the south to exchange (either swap or in terms of monatRy value) if this happens the turkey will have to compensates. Likewise the roc will compensate for tcs with land in the south that did not exchange under the trnc system.

i dont think turkish nationals should have priority over refugees,i can understand if its a t/c refugee occuping the house but not a turkish national or a british carpet bagger

[DTA]

what do you think about security and guranntees?

i have always liked a idea of a joint eu/nato force(a united cyprus would join nato)with about a brigade stregnth on the island of 3,000 men.six battalions of different ethnicites of the eu/nato.

greek,turkish,cypriot, and three other countries.all under a eu/nato commander that can be from any eu/nato country.britsh base would no longer exsisit and .25% of the island to house this force.23 sq km base were dikelia is now.

it's a evocative issue I propose that turkey guarantees the north and eu, NATO whoever you want does the south ie turkey will no longer have military rights of intervention in the south.

[boulio]

disagree here i can understanand for a joint eu/un gurantee for cyrus but not a individual country,turkey within nato can look out for the interest of the north not on her own.

[DTA]

settlers where do you stand on them?christofias offered 50,000 to stay for humantarian reasons.

Only problem would be if the homes were given to Turkish nationals as there would not be land in the south to exchange (either swap or in terms of monatRy value) if this happens the turkey will have to compensates. Likewise the roc will compensate for tcs with land in the south that did not exchange under the trnc system.

i dont think turkish nationals should have priority over refugees,i can understand if its a t/c refugee occuping the house but not a turkish national or a british carpet bagger

I understand your position but on a humanist perspective these are people too and the echr judgements means that they do have that right, purhaps some compromise could be reached - maybe an ofer to rebuild the 'settler' or others comparable house near by will be enough to sort this limited ocurrance

[DTA]

As for amount of ' settlers' some people who were from turkey have been here for 35 years you can't ask them to now leave that is just not right, I propose a system where if they have been here longer then say 10 years or they have family or are married made significant investment. The echr pretty much said this anyway.

[boulio]

what did the echr say can you provide some details becuase i dont think they said what you are saying.

[DTA]

what did the echr say can you provide some details becuase i dont think they said what you are saying.

. Posting from a mobile so can't find it now, it said something about can't force people out of their homes now as it would create new wrong to try and rectify past wrongs.