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[Viewpoint]

Antifon no is the firm answer, bbf is the least that the tcs will accept and I assume the same about the gc side. Bbf is a compromise for both sides - and therefore in the most simplistic of terms (obviously depending on the agreements) is a fair compromise.

The truth is tCypriots are running out of options. They won't have the luxury of dictating to the 90% majority of Cyprus for much longer. Realities will soon force them to what has been their best option all along: a 1963 based unitary based solution, member of the EU!

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We will take our chances.

thats all u know. take! take! take!

And you know nothing.

[DTA]

Antifon you know nothing of tcs nor of kurds did you know there was a Kurdish primeminister of turkey?

As for 63 that is terrible date for tcs - the 13 amendments were the beginning of 11 years of hell for the tcs. Which was as unfair as 74 was for your community.

So again and for infinity NO

[DTA]

what are your thoughts AND points of a fair bbf DTA?

that is a complex question, but I will give as often is the case here an over smplistic answer: i would say if I was not trying to negotiate just (as you never show your hand when you negotiate) trying to be fair:
Give varosha, the buffer zone and amorfo to the gc administration, that hopefully will allow one half of the displaced gcs to return that is based on the figure of 150000,

[DTA]

The other 75,000 or so would be given the choice to return to the tc state where there homes are occupied and the present owner does not want to move (echr ruling) then new homes nearby will be built. Those that don't want to live in the tc state can choose compensation or exchange, this will be paid for by the homes of the 70,000 tc displaced from the south where land values are much higher.

[boulio]

what about if im a g/c that has a house and 5 acres in lapithos,if i choose not to return and get compensated for the house what about my 5 acres?if i do decide to return what political rights wuill i have in the northern state?

[DTA]

Security ie guarenteur for both sides would be a massive issue so I propose the eu to guarenteur the south and Turkey the north.

[quattro]

Antifon no is the firm answer, bbf is the least that the tcs will accept and I assume the same about the gc side. Bbf is a compromise for both sides - and therefore in the most simplistic of terms (obviously depending on the agreements) is a fair compromise.

The truth is tCypriots are running out of options. They won't have the luxury of dictating to the 90% majority of Cyprus for much longer. Realities will soon force them to what has been their best option all along: a 1963 based unitary based solution, member of the EU!

.

We will take our chances.

Hey wake up you dont have any

[bill cobbett]

The other 75,000 or so would be given the choice to return to the tc state where there homes are occupied and the present owner does not want to move (echr ruling) then new homes nearby will be built. Those that don't want to live in the tc state can choose compensation or exchange, this will be paid for by the homes of the 70,000 tc displaced from the south where land values are much higher.

Er... where do you get this nonsense that land values in the Free Areas are much higher mate????

Ever wondered why the land prices in the Occupied Areas are so much lower???

Could land prices in the Occupied Areas be lower cos, in the main, thieves and con-people and scammers are trying to sell stolen lands.

Could it be that on Settlement Day land prices equalise????

One more thing please mate ... "the present owner" according to any legal measure including the ECHR is the person whose name appears on 1974 Kochans issued by the Republic.

The ECHR did nothing... absolutely bugger all nothing to change ownership of property.

[quattro]

Security ie guarenteur for both sides would be a massive issue so I propose the eu to guarantor the south and Turkey the north.

how about EU guarantor cyprus as a whole ?

[quattro]

what are your thoughts AND points of a fair bbf DTA?

that is a complex question, but I will give as often is the case here an over smplistic answer: i would say if I was not trying to negotiate just (as you never show your hand when you negotiate) trying to be fair:
Give varosha, the buffer zone and amorfo to the gc administration, that hopefully will allow one half of the displaced gcs to return that is based on the figure of 150000,

Karpaz also or no deal