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Postby DTA » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:53 am

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DTA wrote:Yep because you care about tcs.


grow up, will u? where were the tc mass demonstrations when abandoned cypriot property was being sold to gullible foreigners for a fast buck? when the war crime of thousands upon thousands of settlers were imported? when the mountain was covered in graffitti? then lit up at night? when all the statues of ataturk went up? and mosques? when saint andreas's monastery was allowed to crumbles? when churches were converted to stables? when christian graveyards were desecrated? when cypriot historic and religious artefacts were sold on the black market? when elderly churchgoers were prevented from celebrating christmas? etc. etc. etc.

but when their own pockets are affected, suddenly, the tcs protest. and they expect anyone else in the world to care.


So what DTA said is true!!!. You dont care and why the hypocrisy. Crocodile tears perhaps?


stop being so melodramatic. i only care in so far as it suits my interests. u've been around long enough to have figured out how the world works, deniz.


if the majority of Gcs and Tcs feel like you then Cyprus will remain divided.
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Postby boomerang » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:58 am

without a threat to their incomes, most tcs would not be demonstrating...they wish to rule themselves, receive good wages, continue with political favouritism in employment if their party is in power, take money from turkey, have turkish soldiers remain on the island, and if possible reach a solution to the cyprus problem...turkey, being what it is, will never allow tcs to govern themselves and simply provide diminishing money and perceived propaganda security just so she can have a foothold on the island...
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Postby ZoC » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:58 am

DTA wrote:
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DTA wrote:Yep because you care about tcs.


grow up, will u? where were the tc mass demonstrations when abandoned cypriot property was being sold to gullible foreigners for a fast buck? when the war crime of thousands upon thousands of settlers were imported? when the mountain was covered in graffitti? then lit up at night? when all the statues of ataturk went up? and mosques? when saint andreas's monastery was allowed to crumbles? when churches were converted to stables? when christian graveyards were desecrated? when cypriot historic and religious artefacts were sold on the black market? when elderly churchgoers were prevented from celebrating christmas? etc. etc. etc.

but when their own pockets are affected, suddenly, the tcs protest. and they expect anyone else in the world to care.


So what DTA said is true!!!. You dont care and why the hypocrisy. Crocodile tears perhaps?


stop being so melodramatic. i only care in so far as it suits my interests. u've been around long enough to have figured out how the world works, deniz.


if the majority of Gcs and Tcs feel like you then Cyprus will remain divided.


so long as turkey controls the north, how cypriots on either side of the divide feel has little bearing. beyond that, ur talking shit.
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Postby DTA » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:16 am

ZoC wrote:
DTA wrote:
ZoC wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
ZoC wrote:
DTA wrote:Yep because you care about tcs.


grow up, will u? where were the tc mass demonstrations when abandoned cypriot property was being sold to gullible foreigners for a fast buck? when the war crime of thousands upon thousands of settlers were imported? when the mountain was covered in graffitti? then lit up at night? when all the statues of ataturk went up? and mosques? when saint andreas's monastery was allowed to crumbles? when churches were converted to stables? when christian graveyards were desecrated? when cypriot historic and religious artefacts were sold on the black market? when elderly churchgoers were prevented from celebrating christmas? etc. etc. etc.

but when their own pockets are affected, suddenly, the tcs protest. and they expect anyone else in the world to care.


So what DTA said is true!!!. You dont care and why the hypocrisy. Crocodile tears perhaps?


stop being so melodramatic. i only care in so far as it suits my interests. u've been around long enough to have figured out how the world works, deniz.


if the majority of Gcs and Tcs feel like you then Cyprus will remain divided.


so long as turkey controls the north, how cypriots on either side of the divide feel has little bearing. beyond that, ur talking shit.


one of us is talking shit, but it is not me, unifiaction of the masses starts with the individual. if you can not get you head around this then you are blinkered - and party of the problem and not the solution.

lets be honest here- the Gcs can not take the north by force, the balance of power does not look like changing anytime in the next 100 years if ever (in fact the tide looks to be heading the other way). every plan for a solution has become worse (at least in the Gc views). In short maxilmilist demands have yielded less then minalmalised results.

so you still think your stand point is correct?
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:23 am

DTA wrote:lets be honest here- the Gcs can not take the north by force, the balance of power does not look like changing anytime in the next 100 years if ever

:? Pretty daft and baseless prediction, especially after seeing such unexpected sweeping changes in numerous parts of the world…
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Postby ZoC » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:33 am

DTA wrote:one of us is talking shit, but it is not me,


must be u. who else? my analysis is based on cold logic and a deep understanding of human nature.

DTA wrote:unifiaction of the masses starts with the individual. if you can not get you head around this then you are blinkered - and party of the problem and not the solution.

lets be honest here- the Gcs can not take the north by force, the balance of power does not look like changing anytime in the next 100 years if ever (in fact the tide looks to be heading the other way). every plan for a solution has become worse (at least in the Gc views). In short maxilmilist demands have yielded less then minalmalised results.

so you still think your stand point is correct?


turkey's total withdrawal from the northern part of cyprus is non-negotiable. until this can be delivered, there's nothing to discuss.
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Postby DTA » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:34 am

ZoC wrote:
DTA wrote:one of us is talking shit, but it is not me,


must be u. who else? my analysis is based on cold logic and a deep understanding of human nature.

DTA wrote:unifiaction of the masses starts with the individual. if you can not get you head around this then you are blinkered - and party of the problem and not the solution.

lets be honest here- the Gcs can not take the north by force, the balance of power does not look like changing anytime in the next 100 years if ever (in fact the tide looks to be heading the other way). every plan for a solution has become worse (at least in the Gc views). In short maxilmilist demands have yielded less then minalmalised results.

so you still think your stand point is correct?


turkey's total withdrawal from the northern part of cyprus is non-negotiable. until this can be delivered, there's nothing to discuss.


Then like I said you know best.
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Postby ZoC » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:41 am

i know what's best for cypriots free from turkey's clutches.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:56 am

Man, this has turned into the TC sulking thread! :lol:
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Postby DTA » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:09 am

Get Real! wrote:Man, this has turned into the TC sulking thread! :lol:


There is no sulking here brother. I like to think that we as humans and cypriots both TC and GC can both compromise for acceptable solution for both sides without maximalist demands which has lead us nowhere since 63.

if not perhaps the teaching of dede Korkut (some say he inspired homer- I dont even know if it was even of the same time period) are right.
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