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Postby Schnauzer » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:55 pm

Perhaps one of the most blatant misinterpretations of a political quote in recent times, was the one which the Ayatollah Khomeini made some time PRIOR to the time of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's address :- "The World Without Zion" (October 25th 2005).

Imam Khomeini actually said (Translated from Arabic to print in Farsi) :-

"Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad"

Which quote is generally accepted to mean that "The regime occupying Jerusalem will vanish with the pages of time".

Another translation puts the meaning to be "That Zionism, like Naziism and Communism, will disappear from the pages of history with the passage of time"

Both of the above are acceptable due to the difficulty of translation from Arabic to English.

Neither of the above can be attributed to President Ahmadinejad, nor can the threat to "Wipe Israel off the face of the map" be presented as an interpretation of either the Ayatollah's or Ahmadinejad's addresses, UNLESS, it is the intention of those who make such interpretations to stir up ill feelings toward yet another innocent nation (remember Iraq?).

To those who depend upon that which they read in the 'Gutter Press' as a source of their political knowledge, or rely upon the words of 'Political Leaders' (severally proven to be LIARS) to form their own opinions, I can only offer my sympathy.

To those who DO think for themselves (even though your opinions may be at variance to my own) I would like to point out that in no way can the term "Wipe Israel off the face of the map" be accepted as a fair translation.

Interestingly enough, the ONLY place that has been effectively "Wiped off the map" in recent times is 'Palestine', no prizes for guessing who has done the "Wiping".

A classic example of 'Political Propaganda' (imho) :wink:
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Postby Jerry » Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:25 pm

Schnauzer, if you have not seen it I suggest you watch "The Promise" on Channel 4 tonight. One of the best fact based dramas I have ever seen on TV. Here's what New Statesman said about it, some of the comments are quite revealing.
http://www.newstatesman.com/television/ ... -palestine

A TV series along these lines about Cyprus in the 1950s would be really interesting. :wink:
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Postby Schnauzer » Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:44 pm

Jerry wrote:Schnauzer, if you have not seen it I suggest you watch "The Promise" on Channel 4 tonight. One of the best fact based dramas I have ever seen on TV. Here's what New Statesman said about it, some of the comments are quite revealing.
http://www.newstatesman.com/television/ ... -palestine

A TV series along these lines about Cyprus in the 1950s would be really interesting. :wink:


Thank you Jerry, for drawing attention to the programme you mention, I appreciate that you recognize the fact that it is one which I should not miss and I have not.

I have spent a great deal of time in the disputed territories of what has come to be known as 'Israel' (the ever expanding terror state), I have seen the suffering of those who are now forced to squirm under the oppression and suppression of a military force which relies upon it's powerful Western allies to sustain it's grip upon the weak, I have also seen the signs of 'Israeli' infiltration in many other places.

Beware Cyprus, the rats are a'nibbling at the back door whilst your political leaders are embracing the Eagle's and the Lion's advices at the front.

I do wonder if 'Israel' has any financial interests in our divided country ?. :wink:
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Postby kurupetos » Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:49 pm

Schnauzer wrote:
Jerry wrote:Schnauzer, if you have not seen it I suggest you watch "The Promise" on Channel 4 tonight. One of the best fact based dramas I have ever seen on TV. Here's what New Statesman said about it, some of the comments are quite revealing.
http://www.newstatesman.com/television/ ... -palestine

A TV series along these lines about Cyprus in the 1950s would be really interesting. :wink:


Thank you Jerry, for drawing attention to the programme you mention, I appreciate that you recognize the fact that it is one which I should not miss and I have not.

I have spent a great deal of time in the disputed territories of what has come to be known as 'Israel' (the ever expanding terror state), I have seen the suffering of those who are now forced to squirm under the oppression and suppression of a military force which relies upon it's powerful Western allies to sustain it's grip upon the weak, I have also seen the signs of 'Israeli' infiltration in many other places.

Beware Cyprus, the rats are a'nibbling at the back door whilst your political leaders are embracing the Eagle's and the Lion's advices at the front.

I do wonder if 'Israel' has any financial interests in our divided country ?. :wink:


Can you prove you are a Cypriot? :wink:
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Postby Schnauzer » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:04 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
Jerry wrote:Schnauzer, if you have not seen it I suggest you watch "The Promise" on Channel 4 tonight. One of the best fact based dramas I have ever seen on TV. Here's what New Statesman said about it, some of the comments are quite revealing.
http://www.newstatesman.com/television/ ... -palestine

A TV series along these lines about Cyprus in the 1950s would be really interesting. :wink:


Thank you Jerry, for drawing attention to the programme you mention, I appreciate that you recognize the fact that it is one which I should not miss and I have not.

I have spent a great deal of time in the disputed territories of what has come to be known as 'Israel' (the ever expanding terror state), I have seen the suffering of those who are now forced to squirm under the oppression and suppression of a military force which relies upon it's powerful Western allies to sustain it's grip upon the weak, I have also seen the signs of 'Israeli' infiltration in many other places.

Beware Cyprus, the rats are a'nibbling at the back door whilst your political leaders are embracing the Eagle's and the Lion's advices at the front.

I do wonder if 'Israel' has any financial interests in our divided country ?. :wink:


Can you prove you are a Cypriot? :wink:


Insofar as I have suffered the slings and arrows of those who would sell my country short, I feel that THAT should be proof enough.

If you require me to reveal my identity, I fear I am unable to oblige. :wink:
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Postby kurupetos » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:18 pm

Schnauzer wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
Jerry wrote:Schnauzer, if you have not seen it I suggest you watch "The Promise" on Channel 4 tonight. One of the best fact based dramas I have ever seen on TV. Here's what New Statesman said about it, some of the comments are quite revealing.
http://www.newstatesman.com/television/ ... -palestine

A TV series along these lines about Cyprus in the 1950s would be really interesting. :wink:


Thank you Jerry, for drawing attention to the programme you mention, I appreciate that you recognize the fact that it is one which I should not miss and I have not.

I have spent a great deal of time in the disputed territories of what has come to be known as 'Israel' (the ever expanding terror state), I have seen the suffering of those who are now forced to squirm under the oppression and suppression of a military force which relies upon it's powerful Western allies to sustain it's grip upon the weak, I have also seen the signs of 'Israeli' infiltration in many other places.

Beware Cyprus, the rats are a'nibbling at the back door whilst your political leaders are embracing the Eagle's and the Lion's advices at the front.

I do wonder if 'Israel' has any financial interests in our divided country ?. :wink:


Can you prove you are a Cypriot? :wink:


Insofar as I have suffered the slings and arrows of those who would sell my country short, I feel that THAT should be proof enough.

If you require me to reveal my identity, I fear I am unable to oblige. :wink:


Write something in cy. :wink: :lol:
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Postby Schnauzer » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:29 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
Jerry wrote:Schnauzer, if you have not seen it I suggest you watch "The Promise" on Channel 4 tonight. One of the best fact based dramas I have ever seen on TV. Here's what New Statesman said about it, some of the comments are quite revealing.
http://www.newstatesman.com/television/ ... -palestine

A TV series along these lines about Cyprus in the 1950s would be really interesting. :wink:


Thank you Jerry, for drawing attention to the programme you mention, I appreciate that you recognize the fact that it is one which I should not miss and I have not.

I have spent a great deal of time in the disputed territories of what has come to be known as 'Israel' (the ever expanding terror state), I have seen the suffering of those who are now forced to squirm under the oppression and suppression of a military force which relies upon it's powerful Western allies to sustain it's grip upon the weak, I have also seen the signs of 'Israeli' infiltration in many other places.

Beware Cyprus, the rats are a'nibbling at the back door whilst your political leaders are embracing the Eagle's and the Lion's advices at the front.

I do wonder if 'Israel' has any financial interests in our divided country ?. :wink:


Can you prove you are a Cypriot? :wink:


Insofar as I have suffered the slings and arrows of those who would sell my country short, I feel that THAT should be proof enough.

If you require me to reveal my identity, I fear I am unable to oblige. :wink:


Write something in cy. :wink: :lol:


My keyboard is ill-equipped BUT, if you insist upon my bastardising the Greek language by using phonetic symbols:-

Kowli ! :lol: :lol: :wink:
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Postby kurupetos » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:32 pm

Schnauzer wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
Jerry wrote:Schnauzer, if you have not seen it I suggest you watch "The Promise" on Channel 4 tonight. One of the best fact based dramas I have ever seen on TV. Here's what New Statesman said about it, some of the comments are quite revealing.
http://www.newstatesman.com/television/ ... -palestine

A TV series along these lines about Cyprus in the 1950s would be really interesting. :wink:


Thank you Jerry, for drawing attention to the programme you mention, I appreciate that you recognize the fact that it is one which I should not miss and I have not.

I have spent a great deal of time in the disputed territories of what has come to be known as 'Israel' (the ever expanding terror state), I have seen the suffering of those who are now forced to squirm under the oppression and suppression of a military force which relies upon it's powerful Western allies to sustain it's grip upon the weak, I have also seen the signs of 'Israeli' infiltration in many other places.

Beware Cyprus, the rats are a'nibbling at the back door whilst your political leaders are embracing the Eagle's and the Lion's advices at the front.

I do wonder if 'Israel' has any financial interests in our divided country ?. :wink:


Can you prove you are a Cypriot? :wink:


Insofar as I have suffered the slings and arrows of those who would sell my country short, I feel that THAT should be proof enough.

If you require me to reveal my identity, I fear I am unable to oblige. :wink:


Write something in cy. :wink: :lol:


My keyboard is ill-equipped BUT, if you insist upon my bastardising the Greek language by using phonetic symbols:-

Kowli ! :lol: :lol: :wink:


:shock: :? I said Cy. not Hindi. :lol:
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Postby Schnauzer » Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:01 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
Jerry wrote:Schnauzer, if you have not seen it I suggest you watch "The Promise" on Channel 4 tonight. One of the best fact based dramas I have ever seen on TV. Here's what New Statesman said about it, some of the comments are quite revealing.
http://www.newstatesman.com/television/ ... -palestine

A TV series along these lines about Cyprus in the 1950s would be really interesting. :wink:


Thank you Jerry, for drawing attention to the programme you mention, I appreciate that you recognize the fact that it is one which I should not miss and I have not.

I have spent a great deal of time in the disputed territories of what has come to be known as 'Israel' (the ever expanding terror state), I have seen the suffering of those who are now forced to squirm under the oppression and suppression of a military force which relies upon it's powerful Western allies to sustain it's grip upon the weak, I have also seen the signs of 'Israeli' infiltration in many other places.

Beware Cyprus, the rats are a'nibbling at the back door whilst your political leaders are embracing the Eagle's and the Lion's advices at the front.

I do wonder if 'Israel' has any financial interests in our divided country ?. :wink:


Can you prove you are a Cypriot? :wink:


Insofar as I have suffered the slings and arrows of those who would sell my country short, I feel that THAT should be proof enough.

If you require me to reveal my identity, I fear I am unable to oblige. :wink:


Write something in cy. :wink: :lol:


My keyboard is ill-equipped BUT, if you insist upon my bastardising the Greek language by using phonetic symbols:-

Kowli ! :lol: :lol: :wink:


:shock: :? I said Cy. not Hindi. :lol:


If I wished to converse in such a lingo, I probably would have written:-

Mayray peet go CHOO mo !. :lol: ( ask one of your Asian friends for an interpretation) :wink:
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Postby kurupetos » Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:05 pm

OK, you convinced me! Without a doubt you are Hindi British. :lol:
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