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by **kurupetos** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:30 pm

jahitty wrote:ROC political parties are so divided that they are unable to see beyond thier own noses, they dont speak with one voice, us in the north are no different.

That's because we have democracy. :roll:

by **jahitty** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:09 pm

Thats an interesting point, in fact lets all be China for the day, and i mean only one day, they get things done! Your right, it is democracy but its not fit for purpose im afraid, well, not fit for the benefit of ALL cypriots. Like I said its certainly not any better in the 'North'.

by **ZoC** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:34 am

more inspiration from the cypriot republic of northern london...

by **BirKibrisli** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:54 am

ZoC wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
ZoC wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
ZoC wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
humanist wrote:Birk: I think the TC community is at risk if they opt for annexation to Turkey. The TC population in Cyprus has seen a substantial decline over the last 45 years.

I hope I am wrong. Thats what makes Cyprus different to Greece ad I imagine Turkey though I have not been there \

The TCs had very little say in what has happened to them,Andrea...
Trust me,their fate was decided the moment Enosis with Greece became GC preoccupation and ambition...I know I am repeating this,but it is only because you people are all in denial...Never,not even for one single moment in history were the TCs had the power to decide their own future...They were a spectator in their own tragedy...

pathetic. anyone who remains a spectator in their own demise deserves nothing less than extinction.

Hitler would agree with you,Mala...The Jews were spectators in their own tragedy too...

errr... as i understand it - rather than becoming extinct at the hands of hitler - the jews went on to establish the state of israel. they didn't do that by being spectators.

They were spectators during the WWII...Their time came later...Just like our time is coming now...

as i said before, ur a total loony.

If I have become loony it is the result of years of dealings with the racists,fascists and bigots on this forum... :wink:

by **boomerang** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:59 am

wow hitler could have used the same excuse as you had it dawned to him...cos ww2 was a by product of ww1... :wink:

by **ZoC** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:03 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
ZoC wrote:
as i said before, ur a total loony.

If I have become loony it is the result of years of dealings with the racists,fascists and bigots on this forum...

once u've sorted out ur lunacy, u need to work on ur victim-complex.

by **BirKibrisli** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:19 am

Hermes wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Hermes wrote:
They were a spectator in their own tragedy.

Yes, Bir. The T/Cs passively collaborated with the British. Then passively waged a guerilla campaign against the majority population throughout the 60s. Then passively welcomed the Turkish invaders in 74. Then passively formed the pseudo-state. Continue to passively exploit our property and land. Passively proclaim that they are entitled to keep it and deny our right of return. And passively come on to public forums and explain to us that the division of our island is nothing to do with Turkish expansionism but is mainly our fault for threatening Turkish hegemony in the region!

God preserve us from T/C passivity!

Now that you are faced with the consequences of your own passivity might I suggest you get up off your passive backsides and say sorry for doing nothing all these years.

You can do all the spin doctoring you like,Hermes...Nothing will change the fact that the TCs were always on the back foot,trying to survive first your Enosis onslought,, your scheeming Akritas plan,then your highjaking of the RoC,then the Greek inspired coup,and the following Turkish onslought followed by your immoral embargoes and isolation tactics... Our fate was sealed the moment the terrorist Sampson was declared President...Comprendre????

Sorry but T/Cs made a moral choice to side with the forces ranged against the RoC and they have done so till this day. Even till this day many T/Cs justify the invasion and occupation as a matter of "saving" the T/Cs and blame the G/C population for inviting Turkey to invade and occupy our island. Now you find that Turkey's policies threaten to eradicate you from the island you expect the world to feel sorry for you. Tough. You have brought your fate on yourselves through your own stupidity, racism and treachery. Maybe you knew no better. You trusted dangerous fools like Denktash and thought the Turkish army would give you the revenge you couldn't exact on the majority Greeks yourselves. Well you have had your taste of revenge and now you face the bitter consequences.

Erdogan has shown his hand and in Eroglu you have a "leader" who truly represents your community. A small-time racist hick without vision or credibility who panders to Turkish dreams of partition. You are where you are.

Personally I think T/Cs are going to struggle to survive on the island unless they turn their backs on Turkey. Those that do remain would be better off in a unified ROC where they will at least be subject to EU citizenship protection. I'd take that over life in a Turkish military camp masquerading as a "state". But then I'm a Greek Cypriot and I have certain standards.

Hermes,
What you are saying is what your state propaganda machine wants YOU and the World to believe...You've obviously swollowed it,hook,line and sinker...It is propogated to justify ALL the injustices and trickery that has been imposed on the TCs since 1963...You will not find one TC who will take what you claim to be gospel,not even someone like Kikapu,,who is the most enlightened,forgiving,and progressive TC I have ever known!!!

The moment AKEL switched its support to Enosis with Greece,instead of independence, the TCs were left with no choice whatsoever...Get that into your thick skull,and you might begin to see things in a different light..

by **BirKibrisli** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:27 am

ZoC wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
ZoC wrote:
as i said before, ur a total loony.

If I have become loony it is the result of years of dealings with the racists,fascists and bigots on this forum...

once u've sorted out ur lunacy, u need to work on ur victim-complex.

Trouble is I have NO victim complex...I know like I know my name that the TCs are the worst victims in this saga...You have 63% of Cyprus to call home...The TCs have zero per cent they can call home...You are giving them no choice,they must evolve into Turks of Cyprus to find a piece of land they call home...And that is what they will do rather than walk back into the arms of their oppressors,tormentors,exterminators...!

Now,what was my name again...?!? :lol:

by **ZoC** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:30 am

birkturk.

by **BirKibrisli** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:39 am

ZoC wrote:birkturk.

No no,I seem to remember another name...with a Cypriot ending...something ending in kibrisli.....I must be losing it... :lol:

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