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[Hermes]

Lawyer tells Greek Cypriots to seek redress in American courts

CLASS ACTION lawsuits in the United States against the ‘TRNC’ and HSBC bank will go down in history, American lawyer Athan Tsimpedes said yesterday, outlining the possibilities of such action to Greek Cypriots.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus-probl ... s/20110223

‘TRNC’ targeted as a commercial enterprise

ATHAN TSIMPEDES’ lawsuit seeks compensation for the illegal funding coordinated by HSBC, the only known international bank that clears money to and from the occupied north for fraudulent transactions involving the selling of titles.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus-probl ... e/20110223

[humanist]

How will the Americans enforce the judgements if Turkey doesn't pay. Back to square one.

[All4114All]

If the G/C are making lawsuits against the TRNC in America is this not just another form of recognition of TRNC?

[Hermes]

How will the Americans enforce the judgements if Turkey doesn't pay. Back to square one.

1. Turkey is not being sued in this action. The action is directed against HSBC and the regime in the north. There is a separate case against Turkey seeking damages for the occupation.

2. I wouldn't underestimate the power of the American courts.

[Hermes]

If the G/C are making lawsuits against the TRNC in America is this not just another form of recognition of TRNC?

Tsimpedes has played down concerns that in suing the ‘TRNC’ he is giving it implicit or explicit recognition. He says he is merely suing the ‘TRNC’ for the damages suffered by the plaintiffs and that, at any rate, recognition can only come by way of the executive branch of the US government and not through the courts as it involves foreign relations.

[Kikapu]

‘TRNC’ targeted as a commercial enterprise

Yeah but, not a very good one.!

[bill cobbett]

If the G/C are making lawsuits against the TRNC in America is this not just another form of recognition of TRNC?

Tsimpedes has played down concerns that in suing the ‘TRNC’ he is giving it implicit or explicit recognition. He says he is merely suing the ‘TRNC’ for the damages suffered by the plaintiffs and that, at any rate, recognition can only come by way of the executive branch of the US government and not through the courts as it involves foreign relations.

There's no recognition of a state involved here... the tnucland regime is being sued as a Criminal Gang or Conspiracy much like the Mafia

[Kikapu]

If the G/C are making lawsuits against the TRNC in America is this not just another form of recognition of TRNC?

Tsimpedes has played down concerns that in suing the ‘TRNC’ he is giving it implicit or explicit recognition. He says he is merely suing the ‘TRNC’ for the damages suffered by the plaintiffs and that, at any rate, recognition can only come by way of the executive branch of the US government and not through the courts as it involves foreign relations.

There's no recognition of a state involved here... the tnucland regime is being sued as a Criminal Gang or Conspiracy much like the Mafia

Well, that's a form of some recognition, is it not.?

[bill cobbett]

If the G/C are making lawsuits against the TRNC in America is this not just another form of recognition of TRNC?

Tsimpedes has played down concerns that in suing the ‘TRNC’ he is giving it implicit or explicit recognition. He says he is merely suing the ‘TRNC’ for the damages suffered by the plaintiffs and that, at any rate, recognition can only come by way of the executive branch of the US government and not through the courts as it involves foreign relations.

There's no recognition of a state involved here... the tnucland regime is being sued as a Criminal Gang or Conspiracy much like the Mafia

Well, that's a form of some recognition, is it not.?

Yes the kind of recognition that comes with criminal notoriety ... ...

but seriously if we can hang this Criminal Gang Conspiracy Label on successive Illegal Regimes the possibilities are endless... sod the ECHR, when things like European Arrest Warrants, extradition proceddings and the like could be used by the Long Arm Of The Law in criminal rather than civil proceedings.... if any member of the Cosa Nostra from Donktosh to Talat to Errorglu put a single step outside their Northern Manor.

Far-fetched? Remember the attempt to arrest Pinochet in London following a demand from the Spanish authorities.

[humanist]

I am not so convinced people. Amen and I hope that it holds validity. Id the lawsuit againsit HSBC is successful then that is something because it will show the rest of the business world that the only place they can function is in a legal recognised nation. It should also be pointed out that if we know that HSBC is set up business in the occupied area, that the government of Cyprus should expel the bank from the RoC. No questions asked.