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Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:03 pm

Yeah, how about Turkey abiding by international law for a change?

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

UN RESOLUTION 550 (1984)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr550.htm
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Postby humanist » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:11 pm

You are correct in all your comments so the culprit here is the UN because it is failing to take action against Turkey and implement its own resolutions. So perhaps Mr Christofias when meeting with Moon next time he ought to point out that the UN itself has found Turkey guilty of an invasion, killings and pillage and therefore needs to ask the International Community to economically embargo Turkey. This will break the Turkish economy and we will see the withdrawal of Turkish troops from Cyprus.
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Postby ZoC » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:21 pm

• (1) Turkey should open its ports and airports to Greek Cypriot sea and air traffic, meeting its signed 2005 obligation to implement the Additional Protocol to its EU Customs Union, and also permit Greek Cypriot aircraft to transit its airspace.
• (2) Greek Cypriots should allow the port of Famagusta to handle Cypriot (including Turkish Cypriot) trade with the EU, under Turkish Cypriot management and EU supervision; end their practice of blocking Turkey’s EU negotiating chapters; and, in the event of trade beginning with Turkey after it implements the Additional Protocol, open up the Green Line to the passage of Turkish goods so that Turkish Cypriots can also benefit.
• (3) Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots should hand back property in the Turkish-military controlled ghost resort of Varosha to its Greek Cypriot owners, subject to a UN interim regime that oversees reconstruction.
• (4) Greek Cypriots should allow charter flights to Ercan Airport in the Turkish Cypriot zone, monitored by the EU.
• (5) Turkey, Greece, the UK and the two Cypriot communities should put in place a mechanism to verify troop numbers on the island. Similarly, the Turkish Cypriot leadership should organise with Greek Cypriots a census to determine the exact population of the island and the legal status of its inhabitants.
• (6) Greek Cypriots should cooperate with Turkish Cypriot administrative entities, pending a political settlement. Turkish officials should meet with Greek Cypriot officials, and Turkish Cypriots should be supportive.
• (7)The European Commission, supported by the EU Presidency, should continue to serve as an honest broker to secure agreement on interim steps. Leaders of EU member states should avoid partisan statements at a time when UN talks continue and no one party is being clearly obstructive.


errr, has anyone else noticed the fundemantal flaw in these 'Six Steps' towards a settlement.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:23 pm

humanist wrote:You are correct in all your comments so the culprit here is the UN because it is failing to take action against Turkey and implement its own resolutions. So perhaps Mr Christofias when meeting with Moon next time he ought to point out that the UN itself has found Turkey guilty of an invasion, killings and pillage and therefore needs to ask the International Community to economically embargo Turkey. This will break the Turkish economy and we will see the withdrawal of Turkish troops from Cyprus.


Do you really think the world would do that for the GCs?
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:29 pm

ZoC wrote:
• (1) Turkey should open its ports and airports to Greek Cypriot sea and air traffic, meeting its signed 2005 obligation to implement the Additional Protocol to its EU Customs Union, and also permit Greek Cypriot aircraft to transit its airspace.
• (2) Greek Cypriots should allow the port of Famagusta to handle Cypriot (including Turkish Cypriot) trade with the EU, under Turkish Cypriot management and EU supervision; end their practice of blocking Turkey’s EU negotiating chapters; and, in the event of trade beginning with Turkey after it implements the Additional Protocol, open up the Green Line to the passage of Turkish goods so that Turkish Cypriots can also benefit.
• (3) Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots should hand back property in the Turkish-military controlled ghost resort of Varosha to its Greek Cypriot owners, subject to a UN interim regime that oversees reconstruction.
• (4) Greek Cypriots should allow charter flights to Ercan Airport in the Turkish Cypriot zone, monitored by the EU.
• (5) Turkey, Greece, the UK and the two Cypriot communities should put in place a mechanism to verify troop numbers on the island. Similarly, the Turkish Cypriot leadership should organise with Greek Cypriots a census to determine the exact population of the island and the legal status of its inhabitants.
• (6) Greek Cypriots should cooperate with Turkish Cypriot administrative entities, pending a political settlement. Turkish officials should meet with Greek Cypriot officials, and Turkish Cypriots should be supportive.
• (7)The European Commission, supported by the EU Presidency, should continue to serve as an honest broker to secure agreement on interim steps. Leaders of EU member states should avoid partisan statements at a time when UN talks continue and no one party is being clearly obstructive.


errr, has anyone else noticed the fundemantal flaw in these 'Six Steps' towards a settlement.



Second item, 'under TC, management'.?
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Postby ZoC » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:47 am

denizaksulu wrote:
ZoC wrote:
• (1) Turkey should open its ports and airports to Greek Cypriot sea and air traffic, meeting its signed 2005 obligation to implement the Additional Protocol to its EU Customs Union, and also permit Greek Cypriot aircraft to transit its airspace.
• (2) Greek Cypriots should allow the port of Famagusta to handle Cypriot (including Turkish Cypriot) trade with the EU, under Turkish Cypriot management and EU supervision; end their practice of blocking Turkey’s EU negotiating chapters; and, in the event of trade beginning with Turkey after it implements the Additional Protocol, open up the Green Line to the passage of Turkish goods so that Turkish Cypriots can also benefit.
• (3) Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots should hand back property in the Turkish-military controlled ghost resort of Varosha to its Greek Cypriot owners, subject to a UN interim regime that oversees reconstruction.
• (4) Greek Cypriots should allow charter flights to Ercan Airport in the Turkish Cypriot zone, monitored by the EU.
• (5) Turkey, Greece, the UK and the two Cypriot communities should put in place a mechanism to verify troop numbers on the island. Similarly, the Turkish Cypriot leadership should organise with Greek Cypriots a census to determine the exact population of the island and the legal status of its inhabitants.
• (6) Greek Cypriots should cooperate with Turkish Cypriot administrative entities, pending a political settlement. Turkish officials should meet with Greek Cypriot officials, and Turkish Cypriots should be supportive.
• (7)The European Commission, supported by the EU Presidency, should continue to serve as an honest broker to secure agreement on interim steps. Leaders of EU member states should avoid partisan statements at a time when UN talks continue and no one party is being clearly obstructive.


errr, has anyone else noticed the fundemantal flaw in these 'Six Steps' towards a settlement.



Second item, 'under TC, management'.?


Certainly a problem if they lack basic numeracy skills.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:36 am

It's not possible for Nicosia airport to re-open.
Firstly, too much residential development has occurred around the airport over the years which makes it dangerous if a plane crashes.
Secondly, because of the above, noise levels would be too high for local residents to cope with.
Thirdly, the runway would need to be extended to cope with modern aircraft.
Fourthly, the airport is inherently dangerous due to proximity of Pendadaktylos mountains. I believe a plane smashed into the mountain range when the airport was operating.
Tymbou will be dangerous because of this also!
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Postby boulio » Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:04 am

Second item, 'under TC, management'.?


i think it means the port of famagusta ie in the annan plan it would have stayed under t/c administration.but it also says cypriot goods so someone exporting from agia napa may want to use famagusta instead of the other southern ports?
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