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Postby boulio » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:45 pm

So why are T/Cs still claiming that enosis is the reason Turkish troops currently occupy northern Cyprus?


the million dollar question
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:48 pm

boulio wrote:
...and 'Turkish Agitation' caused by the GC demand, right from the first day the British flew their flag upon landing at the Salines/Larnaca in 1878.

Can you see 'cause and effect' here?


again im arguing about eoka's role.do we have any documanttion of a demand of enosis in 1878 considering that crete,the eastern aegean islands and dodecanese were not even incorporated within the greek state in 1878?


It needs digging up. I will try and find references.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:51 pm

Check this out:

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/188618/enosis


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British occupation was initially welcomed by the Greek population, which from the start expected the British to transfer Cyprus to Greece. The Greek Cypriots’ demand for enosis (union with Greece) was opposed by Turkish Cypriots, constituting a major division in the island’s politics; a string of almost annual petitions demanding enosis were matched by counterpetitions and demonstrations from...

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There will be more on the subject. From what I recall there was an immediate petition to the new'rulers' of Cyprus, handed over by the Archbishop.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:54 pm

http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/chronology.html


V Cyprus under the British (1878-1960)

A. British Rule until the Second World War

1878 Cyprus Convention with Turkey assigned the island to British occupation & administration. Gov. Wolseley greeted with request for enosis. Tribute to Sultan continued & used to pay off Ottoman debt.

1882 First constitution established a Legislative Council, but Governor could override decisions by decree.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:54 pm

Enough for now. :?
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Postby boulio » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:59 pm

In 1931 the demand for enosis led to riots in Nicosia.


i think this is the real pivotal date
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:04 pm

boulio wrote:
In 1931 the demand for enosis led to riots in Nicosia.


i think this is the real pivotal date


So you ignore the two references I gave you.

Whats new. It does not suit you.

File closed. Been here before.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/enosis.aspx
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:19 pm

Last one from the RoC.(possibly not, but it matters not)

http://www.enotes.com/topic/Cyprus_unde ... man_Empire

After the Greek revolution of 1821 and the establishment of the Greek state, the Greek Cypriots expressed practically the wish of 'Union' with Greece, as it happened with the Ionian Islands and later with Crete.

This feeling of the Greek Cypriots began to be formed since the era of the Turkish occupation and was expressed later at the time of the British occupation. These expectations for 'Union' were expressed by the 'Ethnarchy' (supreme ecclesiastical authority, which represented the Greek Cypriots in the political sector since the first moment of the British presence in Cyprus).
The development of the 'Union' movement of the Greek Cypriots was a sequence of the close ties between Cyprus and Greece due to the common cultural and religious history. During Turkish occupation the manifestation of nationalism was clandestine and feeble due to oppression. On the contrary, during the British occupation, the freedom of expression allowed by the British gave the possibility to the Greek political and religious leaders to nurture the idea of 'Enosis' (Union). The demand for 'Enosis' was initially propounded by the Church and then by the politicians in the Legislative Council, and the various committees formed for the promotion of the national cause.
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Postby boulio » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:38 pm

im not ignoring anything but to say a govener was meet with a call of enosis in 1878 just like that dosent really say much were was the other one?
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:50 pm

One from Brittanica and another called Cyprus-COnflict. Just search for First Enosis demands for Cyprus and you get a lot of references.

I am looking for another on my computer somewhere which has more details but here is another one with a letter written in 1907 and a reply by Churchill I think. I am looking for earlier dates.

According to an
annex to the Convention (1July 1878), Cyprus was to be returned to Turkey.15
Indeed, the Greeks in Cyprus had hoped that the British would expedite the
unification of Cyprus and Greece, as they had previously done with the Ionian
Islands. The following correspondence provides a vivid demonstration of this
expectation and the British response to it at the time.16
The recognition and fulfilment of the historical national rights of the Cyprus Hellenes,
the small Mohammedan minority might disapprove, but its numerical existence in the
island is not so strong as to entitle it to dispose of the National faith of this most Hellenic
island, nor can it be alleged that its real activity in civilising and economic progress is
11 Hill, 1952.
12 Cobham, 1908, pp. 450-469.
13 Kızılyürek, 2002, pp. 51-53.
14 Rolandos Katsionis, Labour, Society and Politics in Cyprus during the Second Half of the Nineteenth
Century, Cyprus Research Centre, Nicosia, 1996, pp. 72-77.
15 Zaim M. Necatigil, The Cyprus Question and the Turkish Position in International Law, Oxford
University Press, 1996, p.3.
16 The Cyprus Gazette (Extraordinary), No. 898, 17th October 1907, pp.6299-6306.
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possessed of any significance. Trade, Science, Arts, Letters, Industry and every work
connected with mental or economical progress, are almost exclusively exercised by
Cyprus Hellenes.
It would be a great injustice to the co-habiting majority and a flagrant denial of the
sacred right of Nationalities, were it hampered by a small alien minority from its highest
National Rights and the fulfilment of its great mission. The Mohammedan minority will not
be prejudiced by following the National faith of the Hellenic Majority; but on the contrary,
will in a good many respects be benefited, as the Hellenic race has practically exhibited a
remarkable religious tolerance and tendency to communicate its own blessings to the
foreign races, from the remotest years up to the day, as in Thessaly, Epirus, Crete and
elsewhere.
The Honourable and Right Reverend the Bishop of Kitium,
M.L.C., in a written address to the Right Honourable W.S.
Churchill, M.P., Under-secretary of State of the Colonies,
12th October, 1907.
I fail to discern at present any way by which the influence and power of the Greek
Elected Members [of the Cyprus Legislative Council17] could be increased which would
not in fact involve a surrender of sovereignty and an inability, not only on the part of the
British Government but also in that of the Moslem minority, to exercise any further
influence on the course of affairs.
When I pass to the even bigger political question… of Union of Cyprus with Greece, I
must speak at a little greater length. That is… the gravest and most serious question
which could possibly be raised. It involves not only an absolute change in the
Government of the Island, but also the abrogation of the Treaty with Turkey. It involves
further the setting aside of the views of nearly one third of the population and the creation
of what would probably be a permanent and dangerous antagonism between the two
sections of the community.
The opinion held by the Moslem population of the Island that… the mission of Great
Britain in the Levant should not be to impair the sovereignty of the Sultan, is one which
His Majesty’s Government are equally bound to respect.
Part of Churchill’s reply.
In 1914, the British annexed the island upon entry of the Ottoman Empire into the
war against the Allies. Moreover, one year later the British offered Cyprus to Greece
as an inducement to enter World War One on its side. King Constantine of Greece,
however, declined and the offer was withdrawn.18 However, Turkey did not recognize
this until the Treaty of Lausanne in 1923. .
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