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[denizaksulu]

Typical Piratis response ...

Typical ofcourse. Pity that if we ignore him unfortunately he wont go away - bless him.

[Piratis]

Typical Piratis response ...

Typically truthful.

What most TCs want is to keep for themselves what Turkey stole from us.

[jahitty]

The wrong calibre? Whats the right Calibre?

[Piratis]

Typical Piratis response ...

Typical ofcourse. Pity that if we ignore him unfortunately he wont go away - bless him.

Why should I go away Deniz? You don't like hearing the truth? Isn't it the truth that most TCs want to rule over the land that Turkey stole from us by ethnically cleansing the vast majority of the local population?

[denizaksulu]

Typical Piratis response ...

Typical ofcourse. Pity that if we ignore him unfortunately he wont go away - bless him.

Why should I go away Deniz? You don't like hearing the truth? Isn't it the truth that most TCs want to rule over the land that Turkey stole from us by ethnically cleansing the vast majority of the local population?

That was part of the expression. "ignore and it might go away". I do not ask for the impossible. We know that, dont we?

I am glad that recently you have been qualifying your attacks on TCs by saying 'mostly'. I await for the day that this will become 'some', then a 'few' - that will be more to the truth.

Above you say 'two thieves' which I find puzzling. If you want to be truthful the TCs are guilty of accepting from the thief 'security'.

If Christofias behaved the same way you do on the cf, there would NEVER be peace on OUR island.

[Get Real!]

Ammendment- The debate wasnt about withdrawal, he explained why Turkey should understand the anger of the TC's and the consequences of the 74 invasion.

One man’s opinion about the occupying power’s squabbles within an internationally condemned and thus illegally occupied territory yields nothing but a feeble and pointless thread!

[Piratis]

Typical Piratis response ...

Typical ofcourse. Pity that if we ignore him unfortunately he wont go away - bless him.

Why should I go away Deniz? You don't like hearing the truth? Isn't it the truth that most TCs want to rule over the land that Turkey stole from us by ethnically cleansing the vast majority of the local population?

That was part of the expression. "ignore and it might go away". I do not ask for the impossible. We know that, dont we?

I am glad that recently you have been qualifying your attacks on TCs by saying 'mostly'. I await for the day that this will become 'some', then a 'few' - that will be more to the truth.

Above you say 'two thieves' which I find puzzling. If you want to be truthful the TCs are guilty of accepting from the thief 'security'.

If Christofias behaved the same way you do on the cf, there would NEVER be peace on OUR island.

I am sorry Deniz but today most TCs support a Turkish state in the north part of Cyprus by legalizing the ethnic cleansing of the GC population which until the cleansing was the vast majority of the land they now want to call Turkish.

The TCs help Turkey to occupy Cyprus and they are equally responsible for the theft. If TCs said that they didn't support this theft then Turkey would lose her excuse.

I would be more than happy if those TCs were only "some" or "few", but unfortunately that is not the case.

[denizaksulu]

Typical Piratis response ...

Typical ofcourse. Pity that if we ignore him unfortunately he wont go away - bless him.

Why should I go away Deniz? You don't like hearing the truth? Isn't it the truth that most TCs want to rule over the land that Turkey stole from us by ethnically cleansing the vast majority of the local population?

That was part of the expression. "ignore and it might go away". I do not ask for the impossible. We know that, dont we?

I am glad that recently you have been qualifying your attacks on TCs by saying 'mostly'. I await for the day that this will become 'some', then a 'few' - that will be more to the truth.

Above you say 'two thieves' which I find puzzling. If you want to be truthful the TCs are guilty of accepting from the thief 'security'.

If Christofias behaved the same way you do on the cf, there would NEVER be peace on OUR island.

I am sorry Deniz but today most TCs support a Turkish state in the north part of Cyprus by legalizing the ethnic cleansing of the GC population which until the cleansing was the vast majority of the land they now want to call Turkish.

The TCs help Turkey to occupy Cyprus and they are equally responsible for the theft. If TCs said that they didn't support this theft then Turkey would lose her excuse.

I would be more than happy if those TCs were only "some" or "few", but unfortunately that is not the case.

You are right - for now. But would it be nice to make the 'most' become the few. But with words like you utter, what do yo expect from the TCs. 'Most' are comfortable now and do not wish another 'upheaval'. I daresay, this applies to most 'settled down' GC refugees also. Also applies to TCs and GCs in the diaspora too. 'I am comfortable, why bother again' with an unsecured future in Cyprus. The polemic uttered by people like yourself(GC and TC/CT/T) does not add to this. As you see I am becoming pessimistic about a peaceful settlement in Cyprus. I wish it was not the case.

[Piratis]

Typical Piratis response ...

Typical ofcourse. Pity that if we ignore him unfortunately he wont go away - bless him.

Why should I go away Deniz? You don't like hearing the truth? Isn't it the truth that most TCs want to rule over the land that Turkey stole from us by ethnically cleansing the vast majority of the local population?

That was part of the expression. "ignore and it might go away". I do not ask for the impossible. We know that, dont we?

I am glad that recently you have been qualifying your attacks on TCs by saying 'mostly'. I await for the day that this will become 'some', then a 'few' - that will be more to the truth.

Above you say 'two thieves' which I find puzzling. If you want to be truthful the TCs are guilty of accepting from the thief 'security'.

If Christofias behaved the same way you do on the cf, there would NEVER be peace on OUR island.

I am sorry Deniz but today most TCs support a Turkish state in the north part of Cyprus by legalizing the ethnic cleansing of the GC population which until the cleansing was the vast majority of the land they now want to call Turkish.

The TCs help Turkey to occupy Cyprus and they are equally responsible for the theft. If TCs said that they didn't support this theft then Turkey would lose her excuse.

I would be more than happy if those TCs were only "some" or "few", but unfortunately that is not the case.

You are right - for now. But would it be nice to make the 'most' become the few. But with words like you utter, what do yo expect from the TCs. 'Most' are comfortable now and do not wish another 'upheaval'. I daresay, this applies to most 'settled down' GC refugees also. Also applies to TCs and GCs in the diaspora too. 'I am comfortable, why bother again' with an unsecured future in Cyprus. The polemic uttered by people like yourself(GC and TC/CT/T) does not add to this. As you see I am becoming pessimistic about a peaceful settlement in Cyprus. I wish it was not the case.

You are not right about GCs and especially our refugees. We are not comfortable with our ethnic cleansing and the occupation of 1/3rd of Cyprus and this is why we want a true solution to this problem, and we reject something like Annan plan which would legalize this ethnic cleansing and create more problems than the few it would solve.

The "most" will not become a "few" by talking nicely to them and not telling them the truth. On the contrary this will make them feel even more comfortable with this abnormal situation.

The "most" will become "few" when they realize that all this brainwashing they received about them not being a minority and deserving disproportionally large amounts of power and land on our expense were all part of the plan to divide Cyprus, and that if this plan succeeds not only they will be a minority, but instead of a significant 18% minority in a democratic EU country, they will find themselves to be an insignificant 0.2% minority with no power whatsoever.

Unfortunately when TCs will realize this it will be too late for them. Some time later, under a different balance of power, we will liberate the north part of our island, but by that time no TCs will be left in Cyprus.

[denizaksulu]

Typical Piratis response ...

Typical ofcourse. Pity that if we ignore him unfortunately he wont go away - bless him.

Why should I go away Deniz? You don't like hearing the truth? Isn't it the truth that most TCs want to rule over the land that Turkey stole from us by ethnically cleansing the vast majority of the local population?

That was part of the expression. "ignore and it might go away". I do not ask for the impossible. We know that, dont we?

I am glad that recently you have been qualifying your attacks on TCs by saying 'mostly'. I await for the day that this will become 'some', then a 'few' - that will be more to the truth.

Above you say 'two thieves' which I find puzzling. If you want to be truthful the TCs are guilty of accepting from the thief 'security'.

If Christofias behaved the same way you do on the cf, there would NEVER be peace on OUR island.

I am sorry Deniz but today most TCs support a Turkish state in the north part of Cyprus by legalizing the ethnic cleansing of the GC population which until the cleansing was the vast majority of the land they now want to call Turkish.

The TCs help Turkey to occupy Cyprus and they are equally responsible for the theft. If TCs said that they didn't support this theft then Turkey would lose her excuse.

I would be more than happy if those TCs were only "some" or "few", but unfortunately that is not the case.

You are right - for now. But would it be nice to make the 'most' become the few. But with words like you utter, what do yo expect from the TCs. 'Most' are comfortable now and do not wish another 'upheaval'. I daresay, this applies to most 'settled down' GC refugees also. Also applies to TCs and GCs in the diaspora too. 'I am comfortable, why bother again' with an unsecured future in Cyprus. The polemic uttered by people like yourself(GC and TC/CT/T) does not add to this. As you see I am becoming pessimistic about a peaceful settlement in Cyprus. I wish it was not the case.

You are not right about GCs and especially our refugees. We are not comfortable with our ethnic cleansing and the occupation of 1/3rd of Cyprus and this is why we want a true solution to this problem, and we reject something like Annan plan which would legalize this ethnic cleansing and create more problems than the few it would solve.

The "most" will not become a "few" by talking nicely to them and not telling them the truth. On the contrary this will make them feel even more comfortable with this abnormal situation.

The "most" will become "few" when they realize that all this brainwashing they received about them not being a minority and deserving disproportionally large amounts of power and land on our expense were all part of the plan to divide Cyprus, and that if this plan succeeds not only they will be a minority, but instead of a significant 18% minority in a democratic EU country, they will find themselves to be an insignificant 0.2% minority with no power whatsoever.

Unfortunately when TCs will realize this it will be too late for them. Some time later, under a different balance of power, we will liberate the north part of our island, but by that time no TCs will be left in Cyprus.

Tha says it all. Language like that gives hope to no one. I doubt you are representative of most GCs though. The many I have spoken to are quite happy to remain where they are. Naturally among others nationalism is rampant and always state that they would rather return to their rightful abodes, whether practical or not. Same could be said in the north of the island.