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"TRNC" bankruptsy, the aftermath.

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby humanist » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:46 am

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So humanist with a 20% 80% imbalance how will the TCs have any effective say in their own future when we are fully aware of GCs racist and revenge seeking mindset against TCs.


I don't think we are any more racist towards you than what some of you are towards us.

I know I can live happily among any person without caring what their nationality or crede they have .... so long as they are a nice person.
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Postby boomerang » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:10 pm

vips is quick of the mark to point the 20% and 80% but not when it comes to land... :wink:

he wants the 20% to control 37% land and 50% coast...
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:29 pm

boomerang wrote:vips is quick of the mark to point the 20% and 80% but not when it comes to land... :wink:

he wants the 20% to control 37% land and 50% coast...


"50% coast" Due to the Karpas peninsular, which is well and truly in the North. Ain't nature a bugger?
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:32 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
boomerang wrote:vips is quick of the mark to point the 20% and 80% but not when it comes to land... :wink:

he wants the 20% to control 37% land and 50% coast...


"50% coast" Due to the Karpas peninsular, which is well and truly in the North. Ain't nature a bugger?


and which still belongs to the RoC! Ain't International Law a bugger?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:37 pm

humanist wrote:VP
So humanist with a 20% 80% imbalance how will the TCs have any effective say in their own future when we are fully aware of GCs racist and revenge seeking mindset against TCs.


I don't think we are any more racist towards you than what some of you are towards us.

I know I can live happily among any person without caring what their nationality or crede they have .... so long as they are a nice person.


What if that person is making your life hell for being from a specific ethnic origin? what will you do then?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:38 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Cypriots are just not ready for such a move so what do we do in the interim when you consider the total mistrust between the two sides.


I don't buy that at all. You are always ready to point out your concerns but you are not willing to demand changes that would do away with your concerns that would also be acceptable to the other side. You problem is, you are not ready to give up on your Taksim Dreams, is the reason why you want to retain ethnically divided political parties. Don't blame good solutions based on Democracy and Human rights as being faulty and untrustworthy. Blame them on you wanting to keep Cyprus divided in anyway possible, and wanting ethnic political parties is just one of them.


Neither side is mature or ready for such a move, can you answer this question honestly maybe difficult for you but please try. Can a political ideological party be manipulated by either ethnic group to favor one community more than the other? or can one ethnic group be excluded with just a symbolic presence?


I need to go, but will get back to your question if you want to discuss it furthermore.

Basically in a word, No, political parties based on political ideologies cannot be manipulated to favour one ethnic group over another when political parties based on ideology are made up of all ethnic groups, specially in today's world and Cyprus being in the EU.

But feel free to tell me what those manipulations could be that you may fear so that we can discuss them.! :idea:


And your answers are?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:40 pm

boomerang wrote:vips is quick of the mark to point the 20% and 80% but not when it comes to land... :wink:

he wants the 20% to control 37% land and 50% coast...


Give me one example where population % = land distribution % you confuse land ownership with land sovereignty do you know the difference?
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Postby DT. » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:43 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
boomerang wrote:vips is quick of the mark to point the 20% and 80% but not when it comes to land... :wink:

he wants the 20% to control 37% land and 50% coast...


Give me one example where population % = land distribution % you confuse land ownership with land sovereignty do you know the difference?


Feel free to talk to us about TC sovereignty.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:43 pm

Paphitis wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
boomerang wrote:vips is quick of the mark to point the 20% and 80% but not when it comes to land... :wink:

he wants the 20% to control 37% land and 50% coast...


"50% coast" Due to the Karpas peninsular, which is well and truly in the North. Ain't nature a bugger?


and which still belongs to the RoC! Ain't International Law a bugger?


And 30% of that belongs to the TCs who control 37% of the island, the truth hurts.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:58 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Cypriots are just not ready for such a move so what do we do in the interim when you consider the total mistrust between the two sides.


I don't buy that at all. You are always ready to point out your concerns but you are not willing to demand changes that would do away with your concerns that would also be acceptable to the other side. You problem is, you are not ready to give up on your Taksim Dreams, is the reason why you want to retain ethnically divided political parties. Don't blame good solutions based on Democracy and Human rights as being faulty and untrustworthy. Blame them on you wanting to keep Cyprus divided in anyway possible, and wanting ethnic political parties is just one of them.


Neither side is mature or ready for such a move, can you answer this question honestly maybe difficult for you but please try. Can a political ideological party be manipulated by either ethnic group to favor one community more than the other? or can one ethnic group be excluded with just a symbolic presence?


I need to go, but will get back to your question if you want to discuss it furthermore.

Basically in a word, No, political parties based on political ideologies cannot be manipulated to favour one ethnic group over another when political parties based on ideology are made up of all ethnic groups, specially in today's world and Cyprus being in the EU.

But feel free to tell me what those manipulations could be that you may fear so that we can discuss them.! :idea:


And your answers are?


You haven't given me your specific concern questions yet, so how can I answer them.?

On the general question you asked, I gave the answer as a "NO". Perhaps you missed it.?
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