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[B25]

When will Cristofias speak up for the TC's who got together and marched for change? We are citizens of the ROC arent we? When will he respond? Leader to leader?

Yeah, this is good ain't it? For the last 37 years the GCs have been nothing but evil murdering bastards and Turkey was smelling of roses.

No sooner does she now turn on you, suddenly you remember the GC and the ROC and ask them to come save your arse.

You got yourselves into this shit, you can get yourselves out of it.

Your mates VP, ZAN, Birk, et al, will not agree with your whinging and will probably call you a traitor. Either way you can sod off.

How disappointing. The above isnot the type of response TCs need. You either want re-unification or you dont. That goes for both sides.

Come on Deniz, up until now we have been your evil monsters. For all this time when we were looking for a solution the TCs had it grand and were telling us to get stuffed and that mama turkey was going to take care of them. Whats happened now? Suddenly we are not evil any more, suddenly they want to be with us? Well they can, sure, but not with the 50% power and other privilages they are accustomed to. I feel used!

When you claim the 'high moral ground' all this time, why stop? or is it time for revenge?

Whatever Deniz, have your own way.
Just don't expect me or others to come running with a tissue for their snotty noses. The problem with the TCs is that they want their cake and eat it.

They have no interest in the RoC other than to continue feeding them. What have they done for the RoC in all these years??? Remember, they (the TCs) have been the ones rejecting us (the GCs) all these years.

[Viewpoint]

you have done a great job in ensuring the isolation of the north continues to keep us closely tied to Turkey.

The job of the embargo was to squeeze the north's economy and make T/Cs and Turkey in particular pay a heavy price for the occupation. As a result, it's driven a wedge between the T/Cs and Turkey with T/Cs out on the streets protesting Turkey's detrimental interference in the north's affairs. Overall, I'd say it's worked pretty well.

You can think what you want but the reality is that due to inhumane GC embargoes against what they claim are their compatriots they are forced to become dependent on Turkey for financial support. The wedge you speak of is no more than a rift which will be bridged as the embargoes continue to force the TCs to remain firmly linked to Turkey, Im sure you are very proud of your actions.

[humanist]

VP

You can think what you want but the reality is that due to inhumane GC embargoes against what they claim are their compatriots they are forced to become dependent on Turkey for financial support. The wedge you speak of is no more than a rift which will be bridged as the embargoes continue to force the TCs to remain firmly linked to Turkey, Im sure you are very proud of your actions.

The embargoes are only as inhumane as the denial of peoples human rights. so if you want to continue your dependence upon Turkey then you will continue to deny people their human rights to their Country, homes and other property. Soz you get no empathy on this matter.

Compatriotship works both ways, whilst you blatantly deny people their rights there will be embargoes.

[Viewpoint]

VP

You can think what you want but the reality is that due to inhumane GC embargoes against what they claim are their compatriots they are forced to become dependent on Turkey for financial support. The wedge you speak of is no more than a rift which will be bridged as the embargoes continue to force the TCs to remain firmly linked to Turkey, Im sure you are very proud of your actions.

The embargoes are only as inhumane as the denial of peoples human rights. so if you want to continue your dependence upon Turkey then you will continue to deny people their human rights to their Country, homes and other property. Soz you get no empathy on this matter.

Compatriotship works both ways, whilst you blatantly deny people their rights there will be embargoes.

What do you expect us to do, we are discussing why we cannot turn our backs on Turkey, as you know we are financially dependent on them for reasons I have clarified but you refuse to understand, all you do is turn around and say you deserve it because we have your properties but say nothing about the fact that you have ours and also have stolen recognition and are milking it for all its worth. For as long as you maintain your current mindset you will never get your properties back and we will continue on our way with Turkey.

[Hermes]

the reality is that due to inhumane GC embargoes against what they claim are their compatriots they are forced to become dependent on Turkey for financial support.

What financial support? It seems Turkey no longer think its worth propping up a bunch of ungrateful freeloaders. Looks like you're on your own now.

[Viewpoint]

the reality is that due to inhumane GC embargoes against what they claim are their compatriots they are forced to become dependent on Turkey for financial support.

What financial support? It seems Turkey no longer think its worth propping up a bunch of ungrateful freeloaders. Looks like you're on your own now.

Looks like you have not understood what all the fuss is about, in your haste to declare the fall of the TCs you have not realized that Turkey is not stopping financial support all together, I know you will be disappointed but facts are facts.

[humanist]

VP

What do you expect us to do, we are discussing why we cannot turn our backs on Turkey, as you know we are financially dependent on them for reasons I have clarified but you refuse to understand, all you do is turn around and say you deserve it because we have your properties but say nothing about the fact that you have ours and also have stolen recognition and are milking it for all its worth. For as long as you maintain your current mindset you will never get your properties back and we will continue on our way with Turkey.

hehehehehehe ............... for the time being we know we will not get our properties back. That is the nature of the situation. We don't have your properties other than having them in a Turkish Cypriot Trust which protects them from being sold off the same way you sell ours to foreigners.

Secondly, you have more faireness in getting your properties back than what we have. The best we can do is get some small changes by a commission you have set up. You have the right to reside in it and then sell it off. Apply the same rules for us and you may see some changes both in the current situation and the property issue. You cannot harm another and expect that you will be rewarded.

[Viewpoint]

VP

What do you expect us to do, we are discussing why we cannot turn our backs on Turkey, as you know we are financially dependent on them for reasons I have clarified but you refuse to understand, all you do is turn around and say you deserve it because we have your properties but say nothing about the fact that you have ours and also have stolen recognition and are milking it for all its worth. For as long as you maintain your current mindset you will never get your properties back and we will continue on our way with Turkey.

hehehehehehe ............... for the time being we know we will not get our properties back. That is the nature of the situation. We don't have your properties other than having them in a Turkish Cypriot Trust which protects them from being sold off the same way you sell ours to foreigners.

Secondly, you have more faireness in getting your properties back than what we have. The best we can do is get some small changes by a commission you have set up. You have the right to reside in it and then sell it off. Apply the same rules for us and you may see some changes both in the current situation and the property issue. You cannot harm another and expect that you will be rewarded.

Fairness?? what being forced to live in the GC south for 6 months before we can apply to GC courts for our rights only to be told we have to wait until after a solution wheres the fairness in that?

[humanist]

Fairness?? what being forced to live in the GC south for 6 months before we can apply to GC courts for our rights only to be told we have to wait until after a solution wheres the fairness in that?

Give us the same rights and then we'll talk further about it. And from where I am sitting a six month deal to live among the TC and the Settlers and the British and the Jews and the Russians seems like a fair deal. What's good for the goose is good for the ganter.

You will not be told to wait until after a solution. You know this and you know this well. It is your sneaky mind that finds you in your current situation.

[Viewpoint]

Fairness?? what being forced to live in the GC south for 6 months before we can apply to GC courts for our rights only to be told we have to wait until after a solution wheres the fairness in that?

Give us the same rights and then we'll talk further about it. And from where I am sitting a six month deal to live among the TC and the Settlers and the British and the Jews and the Russians seems like a fair deal. What's good for the goose is good for the ganter.

You will not be told to wait until after a solution. You know this and you know this well. It is your sneaky mind that finds you in your current situation.

Unlike us you dont have to live in the TRNC for six months to apply for your property rights, you can go straight to the IPC/

We have relatives who have been told they will not be paid compensation until after a solution is found because their property was used by the "RoC".