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[Viewpoint]

I think we need to be very careful not to fall for such dishonest calls of convenience!

If Turkey was to abandon her plan to privatize puppet institutions, those TCs who were crying foul yesterday and calling on the RoC for support, would stick their finger up at the RoC again overnight because they would’ve accomplished what they really wanted!

The majority of the T/Cs have been content to take Turkey's money and wave the flag of the "TRNC" when it suited them. They were only too happy to overlook the evil consequences of the occupation and exploit our land. They expressed no moral qualms over the occupation as long as Turkey fed and maintained them. Now that Turkey threatens to cut off the money supply, we are asked to believe that the T/Cs have suddenly developed a conscience! Well it seems that a T/C's conscience can be easily bought.

Fortunately both sides in the occupied area have painted themselves into a corner. Neither can afford to back down. If Erdogan caves in to T/C demands he will lose face. If the protesters back down they will face slow and inevitable decline. From our perspective, the splitting off of the T/Cs from Turkey is a bonus that will benefit us in the negotiations and international arena. It is too good an opportunity to worry about the motives of the T/Cs. Let's just bless our good fortune and do all we can to exploit the situation to our advantage.

Hermes you come across as being insincere and clutching at any issue to gain the upper hand, you will be very disappointed and your euphoria will fizzle out as you understand that nothing is going to change as you have done a great job in ensuring the isolation of the north continues to keep us closely tied to Turkey.

[Hermes]

you have done a great job in ensuring the isolation of the north continues to keep us closely tied to Turkey.

The job of the embargo was to squeeze the north's economy and make T/Cs and Turkey in particular pay a heavy price for the occupation. As a result, it's driven a wedge between the T/Cs and Turkey with T/Cs out on the streets protesting Turkey's detrimental interference in the north's affairs. Overall, I'd say it's worked pretty well.

[denizaksulu]

When will Cristofias speak up for the TC's who got together and marched for change? We are citizens of the ROC arent we? When will he respond? Leader to leader?

Yeah, this is good ain't it? For the last 37 years the GCs have been nothing but evil murdering bastards and Turkey was smelling of roses.

No sooner does she now turn on you, suddenly you remember the GC and the ROC and ask them to come save your arse.

You got yourselves into this shit, you can get yourselves out of it.

Your mates VP, ZAN, Birk, et al, will not agree with your whinging and will probably call you a traitor. Either way you can sod off.

How disappointing. The above isnot the type of response TCs need. You either want re-unification or you dont. That goes for both sides.

[B25]

When will Cristofias speak up for the TC's who got together and marched for change? We are citizens of the ROC arent we? When will he respond? Leader to leader?

Yeah, this is good ain't it? For the last 37 years the GCs have been nothing but evil murdering bastards and Turkey was smelling of roses.

No sooner does she now turn on you, suddenly you remember the GC and the ROC and ask them to come save your arse.

You got yourselves into this shit, you can get yourselves out of it.

Your mates VP, ZAN, Birk, et al, will not agree with your whinging and will probably call you a traitor. Either way you can sod off.

How disappointing. The above isnot the type of response TCs need. You either want re-unification or you dont. That goes for both sides.

Come on Deniz, up until now we have been your evil monsters. For all this time when we were looking for a solution the TCs had it grand and were telling us to get stuffed and that mama turkey was going to take care of them. Whats happened now? Suddenly we are not evil any more, suddenly they want to be with us? Well they can, sure, but not with the 50% power and other privilages they are accustomed to. I feel used!

[Paphitis]

At this point in time, I firmly believe that it would be wise if the RoC somehow offered some form of aid to the TCs through the trade unions as long as this aid would benefit its citizens and the TC community alone. A few million Euros might go a long way. It would send a very clear cut message.

GC trade unions should also organise parallel demonstrations in the Government controlled areas as an act of solidarity.

We have nothing to lose, and many TCs are genuine in their desire for a unified Cyprus. Let's help them out and then see what the results will be.

This is an investment in my view...

[denizaksulu]

When will Cristofias speak up for the TC's who got together and marched for change? We are citizens of the ROC arent we? When will he respond? Leader to leader?

Yeah, this is good ain't it? For the last 37 years the GCs have been nothing but evil murdering bastards and Turkey was smelling of roses.

No sooner does she now turn on you, suddenly you remember the GC and the ROC and ask them to come save your arse.

You got yourselves into this shit, you can get yourselves out of it.

Your mates VP, ZAN, Birk, et al, will not agree with your whinging and will probably call you a traitor. Either way you can sod off.

How disappointing. The above isnot the type of response TCs need. You either want re-unification or you dont. That goes for both sides.

Come on Deniz, up until now we have been your evil monsters. For all this time when we were looking for a solution the TCs had it grand and were telling us to get stuffed and that mama turkey was going to take care of them. Whats happened now? Suddenly we are not evil any more, suddenly they want to be with us? Well they can, sure, but not with the 50% power and other privilages they are accustomed to. I feel used!

When you claim the 'high moral ground' all this time, why stop? or is it time for revenge?

[Get Real!]

At this point in time, I firmly believe that it would be wise if the RoC somehow offered some form of aid to the TCs through the trade unions as long as this aid would benefit its citizens and the TC community alone. A few million Euros might go a long way. It would send a very clear cut message.

That’s not an investment!

Who in the right mind would want to pay money to a 50k+ strong non-tax paying group of people who are parlaying with the enemy so as to strengthen their position?

If smart, what the RoC should now do is sponsor the TMT to rise up and teach the “infidels” a lesson!

Now that’s strategy that works!

[Paphitis]

At this point in time, I firmly believe that it would be wise if the RoC somehow offered some form of aid to the TCs through the trade unions as long as this aid would benefit its citizens and the TC community alone. A few million Euros might go a long way. It would send a very clear cut message.

That’s not an investment!

Who in the right mind would want to pay money to a 50k+ strong non-tax paying group of people who are parlaying with the enemy so as to strengthen their position?

If smart, what the RoC should now do is sponsor the TMT to rise up and teach the “infidels” a lesson!

Now that’s strategy that works!

You can consider it a social experiment which may (or may not) drive a wedge between the now small TC community and the occupation regime. The events in Egypt have shown us to never underestimate the will of the people and the RoC will be sending a very clear message that it stands by its very RoC citizens in their time of need and also remind them that the RoC will always be there for the TC community.

Not all TCs are TMT and many would love to see the "trnc" fall flat on its face and a unified island.

I would've thought you of all people would know this fact.

[Get Real!]

At this point in time, I firmly believe that it would be wise if the RoC somehow offered some form of aid to the TCs through the trade unions as long as this aid would benefit its citizens and the TC community alone. A few million Euros might go a long way. It would send a very clear cut message.

That’s not an investment!

Who in the right mind would want to pay money to a 50k+ strong non-tax paying group of people who are parlaying with the enemy so as to strengthen their position?

If smart, what the RoC should now do is sponsor the TMT to rise up and teach the “infidels” a lesson!

Now that’s strategy that works!

You can consider it a social experiment which may (or may not) drive a wedge between the now small TC community and the occupation regime. The events in Egypt have shown us to never underestimate the will of the people and the RoC will be sending a very clear message that it stands by its very RoC citizens in their time of need and also remind them that the RoC will always be there for the TC community.

Not all TCs are TMT and many would love to see the "trnc" fall flat on its face and a unified island.

I would've thought you of all people would know this fact.

Paying the TCs money would REMOVE that wedge you nitwit, because the TCs would be quite happy to get a little bit from here and a little bit from there to continue the puppet games!

I think you should stick to sheep shagging!

[Paphitis]

At this point in time, I firmly believe that it would be wise if the RoC somehow offered some form of aid to the TCs through the trade unions as long as this aid would benefit its citizens and the TC community alone. A few million Euros might go a long way. It would send a very clear cut message.

That’s not an investment!

Who in the right mind would want to pay money to a 50k+ strong non-tax paying group of people who are parlaying with the enemy so as to strengthen their position?

If smart, what the RoC should now do is sponsor the TMT to rise up and teach the “infidels” a lesson!

Now that’s strategy that works!

You can consider it a social experiment which may (or may not) drive a wedge between the now small TC community and the occupation regime. The events in Egypt have shown us to never underestimate the will of the people and the RoC will be sending a very clear message that it stands by its very RoC citizens in their time of need and also remind them that the RoC will always be there for the TC community.

Not all TCs are TMT and many would love to see the "trnc" fall flat on its face and a unified island.

I would've thought you of all people would know this fact.

Paying the TCs money would REMOVE that wedge you nitwit, because the TCs would be quite happy to get a little bit from here and a little bit from there to continue the puppet games!

I think you should stick to sheep shagging!

Well, even if that is the case, the aid can be discontinued and a few million is hardly going to go too far!

It is more of a symbolic gesture which could lead to other developments. It certianly gives them a clear message, and then it is up to them as to what they do as the entire notion that the TA is their savoiur has well and truly been undermined.

This is one option. The other option (yours) is to do nothing.

What are you doing this weekend? Troodhos?