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[humanist]

GR perhaps they have not thought about it.

How about you become involved in the TC struggle and bring these resolutions to their attention?

[Get Real!]

GR perhaps they have not thought about it.

How about you become involved in the TC struggle and bring these resolutions to their attention?

The TC community has only just realized this year it seems that…

1. There will never be a separate TC state or anything close even.
2. Turkey is unable to bend international rules in the TCs favor.
3. Turkey is not the “power house” they thought and has no magic tricks to offer.
4. The RoC is getting stronger every year to the point where she is now talking natural resources, alliances with neighbors, EU presidency, long term regional participations, etc, and that has become a lot more attractive than what Turkey has to offer.

So, it’s not like the TC community has suddenly realized and acknowledged the illegality of the 1974 invasion & occupation and want to make amends, but they are just fed up with the “Turkey option” and looking for a deal with someone else purely for selfish reasons!

I think it’s important to INTERPRET the recent “TRNC” happenings correctly.

[Hermes]

Your mates VP, ZAN, Birk, et al, will not agree with your whinging and will probably call you a traitor. Either way you can sod off.

The same whiners (plus the departed YFred) who said the trade embargo wouldn't work. Now look what's happened. Instead of bringing the T/Cs closer to Turkey, economic bankruptcy has forced the T/Cs onto the streets in opposition to Turkey.

As long as they had it cushy, they conveniently forget the immorality of the occupation and blamed the G/Cs for their predicament. Now they see what Turkey has in store for them and they have second thoughts.

Be that as it may, I think it's in our interests that we do everything we can to drive a wedge between the T/Cs and the Turks. It's a chance we shouldn't miss.

[Hermes]

The TC community has only just realized this year it seems that…

1. There will never be a separate TC state or anything close even.
2. Turkey is unable to bend international rules in the TCs favor.
3. Turkey is not the “power house” they thought and has no magic tricks to offer.
4. The RoC is getting stronger every year to the point where she is now talking natural resources, alliances with neighbors, EU presidency, long term regional participations, etc, and that has become a lot more attractive than what Turkey has to offer.

So, it’s not like the TC community has suddenly realized and acknowledged the illegality of the 1974 invasion & occupation and want to make amends, but they are just fed up with the “Turkey option” and looking for a deal with someone else purely for selfish reasons!

I think it’s important to INTERPRET the recent “TRNC” happenings correctly.

True. T/Cs have behaved like stray cats who will adopt as their masters the first person that offers to keep and maintain them. Right now, the option of Turkish assimilation doesn't look very attractive. Especially as Turkey is looking towards an Islamic future and not a European one. We on the other hand can offer them work, wealth, freedom and democracy. Not a tough choice when you think about it. Now the T/Cs have to get off their knees and take on their oppressors - the Turkish army which allegedly came to "liberate" them. The irony.

[Klik]

When will Cristofias speak up for the TC's who got together and marched for change? We are citizens of the ROC arent we? When will he respond? Leader to leader?

Do they pay taxes?

[humanist]

GR

I think it’s important to INTERPRET the recent “TRNC” happenings correctly.

Correctly, can be such a subjective term ...... I think there are many ways to interpret the events as they have occurred, the underlying forces that have driven them and also acknowledge that these are multi layered issues we are talking about it.

In my perception is that people living in the "trnc" (no matter how small the number is ... from little things, big things groww this number can grow). It is about economic advancement it is about international recognition. Those two young fellas on RIK also spoke of one Cyprus. That is the sentiment that the RoC's current government needs to approach this.

[Viewpoint]

You are clutching at straws.

[Get Real!]

GR

I think it’s important to INTERPRET the recent “TRNC” happenings correctly.

Correctly, can be such a subjective term ...... I think there are many ways to interpret the events as they have occurred, the underlying forces that have driven them and also acknowledge that these are multi layered issues we are talking about it.

In my perception is that people living in the "trnc" (no matter how small the number is ... from little things, big things groww this number can grow). It is about economic advancement it is about international recognition. Those two young fellas on RIK also spoke of one Cyprus. That is the sentiment that the RoC's current government needs to approach this.

I think we need to be very careful not to fall for such dishonest calls of convenience!

If Turkey was to abandon her plan to privatize puppet institutions, those TCs who were crying foul yesterday and calling on the RoC for support, would stick their finger up at the RoC again overnight because they would’ve accomplished what they really wanted!

[Hermes]

I think we need to be very careful not to fall for such dishonest calls of convenience!

If Turkey was to abandon her plan to privatize puppet institutions, those TCs who were crying foul yesterday and calling on the RoC for support, would stick their finger up at the RoC again overnight because they would’ve accomplished what they really wanted!

The majority of the T/Cs have been content to take Turkey's money and wave the flag of the "TRNC" when it suited them. They were only too happy to overlook the evil consequences of the occupation and exploit our land. They expressed no moral qualms over the occupation as long as Turkey fed and maintained them. Now that Turkey threatens to cut off the money supply, we are asked to believe that the T/Cs have suddenly developed a conscience! Well it seems that a T/C's conscience can be easily bought.

Fortunately both sides in the occupied area have painted themselves into a corner. Neither can afford to back down. If Erdogan caves in to T/C demands he will lose face. If the protesters back down they will face slow and inevitable decline. From our perspective, the splitting off of the T/Cs from Turkey is a bonus that will benefit us in the negotiations and international arena. It is too good an opportunity to worry about the motives of the T/Cs. Let's just bless our good fortune and do all we can to exploit the situation to our advantage.

[humanist]

GR

I think we need to be very careful not to fall for such dishonest calls of convenience!

If Turkey was to abandon her plan to privatize puppet institutions, those TCs who were crying foul yesterday and calling on the RoC for support, would stick their finger up at the RoC again overnight because they would’ve accomplished what they really wanted!

Possibly very true. However, we will also benefit at their benefit. Indeed it gives the RoC much more bargaining power.