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[humanist]

VP, I am certain things will change by these actions and will do so very quickly. I think if the TC community rallies regularly I think it is possible we could reach the Solution n Ban Ki Moon alluded too by the end of the year. It may be best that we reach a solution today so we have the next three, five and seven year periods to reach some milestones.

Having said this some practical considerations should be taken into account on dislocating those TC's who would not like to be moved.

[CBBB]

I re-state my comment ......... there is a small portion of Cypriots living in the 'trnc' who are clearly saying we recognise the RoC and we pledge to the President of the Island to represent us. If they are working in partnership with the free area people to Unite their Country is another matter. They exist and their cause will gain momentum because people are sick and tired of being second class citizen.

The 10 or 20 people you refer to have been around for many years it hasnt changed a thing, you still havent answered my question about how long do you need to understand nothing will change or develop as you claim? how long before you understand how stupid you sound?

I think it is obvious to everybody who is the stupid one on this thread!

Are you a GC?

No, I am a C.

[Kikapu]

all I can say to you VP is that your own people are talking about their situation, they are asking for the president of the Republic to represent their views on a global arena. Who is being stupid now?

one person does not mean this is what the majority want before you say it i will say it that the rally was not ahainst Turkey but the economic measures being apllied in the TRNC.

and the turkiye asiktir what was about ...........and roc flags what was about..............VP WAKE UP

They were not part of the overall meeting just a few provocsteurs who work with forces from the south.

So what are the reasons for the second demonstrations on 2nd of March for.? If the last one was for economic reasons only, why have the second demo. Turkey already said for you to tighten your belts, so why have another demo if Turkey won't give as much money as before.??

Personally, I believe it is Turkey who is provoking the TCs for them to get them mad and angry, so that Turkey can have a face saving excuse to leave the north. I wouldn't be surprised if those "provocateurs" were not sent by Erdogan himself, and just to get the TCs really pissed off, he called them bunch of degrading names. Turkey is in a panic mode at the moment with the whole middle east are on a Democracy Frenzy. They are worried, if their EU accessions come to a full stop and the Customs Union is retracted by the EU, all hell is going to break loose in Turkey when their economy goes into the toilet, which Erdogan and his party will be held responsible for the collapse. The Turks are going to be after blood for them missing out on the EU, just for the sake of keeping the "trnc" afloat. Times are changing, and they are changing very fast. There's no time to sit on the pot too long any longer. It is going to be the case of, "shit or get off the pot" for Turkey with the EU.

[humanist]

Kikapu

So what are the reasons for the second demonstrations on 2nd of March for.? If the last one was for economic reasons only, why have the second demo. Turkey already said for you to tighten your belts, so why have another demo if Turkey won't give as much money as before.??

Personally, I believe it is Turkey who is provoking the TCs for them to get them mad and angry, so that Turkey can have a face saving excuse to leave the north. I wouldn't be surprised if those "provocateurs" were not sent by Erdogan himself, and just to get the TCs really pissed off, he called them bunch of degrading names. Turkey is in a panic mode at the moment with the whole middle east are on a Democracy Frenzy. They are worried, if their EU accessions come to a full stop and the Customs Union is retracted by the EU, all hell is going to break loose in Turkey when their economy goes into the toilet, which Erdogan and his party will be held responsible for the collapse. The Turks are going to be after blood for them missing out on the EU, just for the sake of keeping the "trnc" afloat. Times are changing, and they are changing very fast. There's no time to sit on the pot too long any longer. It is going to be the case of, "shit or get off the pot" for Turkey with the EU.

That is certainly how I see things also. Except the bit about these fellas being sent by Edrogan. I think they didn't realise the impact they would have had so now they need rescue.

[Viewpoint]

The meeting on then 2nd is again related to the economic cut backs it has nothing to do with finding a solution you morons are trying to use the situations to score a few brownie points and boost your own biased egos. Turkey will never leave the island without a solution you have always claimed they have strategic interests what has changed?

[Kikapu]

The meeting on then 2nd is again related to the economic cut backs it has nothing to do with finding a solution you morons are trying to use the situations to score a few brownie points and boost your own biased egos. Turkey will never leave the island without a solution you have always claimed they have strategic interests what has changed?

But if Turkey has already spoken against giving any more extra money to the "trnc", what's the point in having a second demonstration, unless it is to become confrontational with Turkey's presence in the north..??

Turkey cannot get the kind of settlement she wants, like the Annan Plan which would have given her control of the whole island and have influence in the EU through the north state. That dream has come on gone in 2004, so now she is stuck in Cyprus and can't just pull out without looking pretty silly, having invested so much in the north already and the prospect of being seen as defeated by the small country like the RoC. Turkey would rather pull out by having the TCs telling her to pull out just so to save face, which then she can concentrate on her EU dreams, because she is not getting anywhere with the EU, unless Turkey does leave Cyprus.

Turkey once may have thought she had "strategic interests" in Cyprus, but that too has come and gone. I can't see ANY "strategic interests" Turkey can have in Cyprus for her security that she cannot manage from her own shores only 60 miles away. Turkey's strategic interests are nothing but a "Red Herring" to stay in Cyprus until she can find a way to leave the island and save face same time.

Looks like she may have gotten it now by making the TCs angry by provoking them with the cuts in money supply and calling the TCs "ungrateful kept parasites".! It's all going to be downhill from here on, so you better buckle your seat for a rough ride, now that Turkey sent in the "arm twister" for an ambassador when he is not even a diplomat, Turkey is gradually relinquishing her recognition of the "trnc". At this moment in time, Turkey does not see the "trnc" as a independent country. She is on her way out and so is the "trnc", so get use to it.

[Paphitis]

The meeting on then 2nd is again related to the economic cut backs it has nothing to do with finding a solution you morons are trying to use the situations to score a few brownie points and boost your own biased egos. Turkey will never leave the island without a solution you have always claimed they have strategic interests what has changed?

If this is true, then Turkey would not be cutting back on "aid". Most nations have an open cheque book when it comes to Strategic Interests.

Perhaps these Strategic interests have changed, as they do with most other nations in time.

You have always been on thin ice. You better pray there is no such thing as Gliobal Warming!

[Kikapu]

Kikapu

So what are the reasons for the second demonstrations on 2nd of March for.? If the last one was for economic reasons only, why have the second demo. Turkey already said for you to tighten your belts, so why have another demo if Turkey won't give as much money as before.??

Personally, I believe it is Turkey who is provoking the TCs for them to get them mad and angry, so that Turkey can have a face saving excuse to leave the north. I wouldn't be surprised if those "provocateurs" were not sent by Erdogan himself, and just to get the TCs really pissed off, he called them bunch of degrading names. Turkey is in a panic mode at the moment with the whole middle east are on a Democracy Frenzy. They are worried, if their EU accessions come to a full stop and the Customs Union is retracted by the EU, all hell is going to break loose in Turkey when their economy goes into the toilet, which Erdogan and his party will be held responsible for the collapse. The Turks are going to be after blood for them missing out on the EU, just for the sake of keeping the "trnc" afloat. Times are changing, and they are changing very fast. There's no time to sit on the pot too long any longer. It is going to be the case of, "shit or get off the pot" for Turkey with the EU.

That is certainly how I see things also. Except the bit about these fellas being sent by Edrogan. I think they didn't realise the impact they would have had so now they need rescue.

Humanist, have you ever heard of "False Flag Operation" conducted by Turkey before, where they do something bad and then blame others for it, so to pursue their objectives.???

If not, you have now.!

[Viewpoint]

The meeting on then 2nd is again related to the economic cut backs it has nothing to do with finding a solution you morons are trying to use the situations to score a few brownie points and boost your own biased egos. Turkey will never leave the island without a solution you have always claimed they have strategic interests what has changed?

But if Turkey has already spoken against giving any more extra money to the "trnc", what's the point in having a second demonstration, unless it is to become confrontational with Turkey's presence in the north..??

Turkey cannot get the kind of settlement she wants, like the Annan Plan which would have given her control of the whole island and have influence in the EU through the north state. That dream has come on gone in 2004, so now she is stuck in Cyprus and can't just pull out without looking pretty silly, having invested so much in the north already and the prospect of being seen as defeated by the small country like the RoC. Turkey would rather pull out by having the TCs telling her to pull out just so to save face, which then she can concentrate on her EU dreams, because she is not getting anywhere with the EU, unless Turkey does leave Cyprus.

Turkey once may have thought she had "strategic interests" in Cyprus, but that too has come and gone. I can't see ANY "strategic interests" Turkey can have in Cyprus for her security that she cannot manage from her own shores only 60 miles away. Turkey's strategic interests are nothing but a "Red Herring" to stay in Cyprus until she can find a way to leave the island and save face same time.

Looks like she may have gotten it now by making the TCs angry by provoking them with the cuts in money supply and calling the TCs "ungrateful kept parasites".! It's all going to be downhill from here on, so you better buckle your seat for a rough ride, now that Turkey sent in the "arm twister" for an ambassador when he is not even a diplomat, Turkey is gradually relinquishing her recognition of the "trnc". At this moment in time, Turkey does not see the "trnc" as a independent country. She is on her way out and so is the "trnc", so get use to it.

Ill ask you the same question as well, how long do you need to know how wrong you were and how stupid you really are?

[Viewpoint]

The meeting on then 2nd is again related to the economic cut backs it has nothing to do with finding a solution you morons are trying to use the situations to score a few brownie points and boost your own biased egos. Turkey will never leave the island without a solution you have always claimed they have strategic interests what has changed?

If this is true, then Turkey would not be cutting back on "aid". Most nations have an open cheque book when it comes to Strategic Interests.

Perhaps these Strategic interests have changed, as they do with most other nations in time.

You have always been on thin ice. You better pray there is no such thing as Gliobal Warming!

Are you aware of the world economic crisis, of course there has to be cut backs especially when some not all of these government workers are taking advantage of the generous financial support Turkey has been providing.